Welcome to the first post in Cobwebs. Since cobwebs are the history of where a spider has been, this is what we are calling our exploration into Spider-Man’s past. Thanks to T. Rob Brown for that suggestion.
The cover release for the All New All Different Amazing Spider-Man # 1 has a lot of people speculating on pretty much every aspect of what is crammed into it. There is a suave and dashing Peter Parker, glowing green arm pit webs, and curiously a Spider-Mobile racing across the side of a building. The car is a design by artist Giuseppe Camuncoli and, to many new readers, may seem like a totally new idea. However, since you are a Crawlspace reader, you are most likely a savvy and clever person and have at this point deducted that since this post is about the Spider-Past, it falls under the saying, “there is nothing new under the sun.”
Get ready for some Merry Marvel Mayhem and be prepared to learn that the good old days were not always so good.
So where do we turn to find the original Spidey-Mobile story arc? You’ll have to go way back and find Amazing Spider-Man #126 -127, 130, 141-142, 157, 159-160 in your local comic book store’s back issue bin. These are available on Marvel Unlimited and in Essential Amazing Spider-Man Volume 7.
O.K., where to begin? Let’s address the second most obvious question* that pops up in everyone’s mind when they first hear that a Spider-Mobile actually exists: “Why does a guy who swings through the air need a car?” This question was originally asked by the creator of this fiasco (to use Spider-Man’s own words). The first obvious answer is that it was the 1970s. The second answer is money, for both Marvel and our favorite often-short-on-rent hero. (*The first obvious question is, “What were they drinking when they thought that was a good idea?”)
In 2013, the San Diego Comic Con had a Spotlight on Gerry Conway panel, where he addressed all of comicdom’s most pressing concerns, such as Gwen Stacy’s death, the creation of the Punisher, and most pressing of all, where did the idea of the Spider-Mobile come from?
This was a notion that Stan had. Stan was put in an odd position because he moved up from being an editor/writer to being the publisher of Marvel Comics in 1970-71, and as a result of that, his priorities towards how to find revenues for the company changed. He was approached by, I think it was Hasbro, or it might have been Tonka Toys or something, who said, “Listen, we found that what really works for toy characters, in addition to the figures, is if they had a lot of cool stuff with them. Could you maybe give each of your characters a cool car?” And so Stan said, “Sure!” He didn’t have to do it. He told me, “You know, Spider-Man needs to have a car.” And I’m like, “You do realize that Spider-Man swings on a web between buildings and the car would really slow him down doing that?” and he said, “I don’t’ care what you do with it, just do it.” So we played it for laughs and we sank it in, I think, the same issue. It was just crazy town banana pants.
O.K., I may have added the crazy town banana pants part. You can read his whole discussion at http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=47030, but you’ll want to do it later because Gerry was slightly off in his recollection and we are about to give you what really happened. So before we go behind the scenes, let’s look at in front of the scenes and cover Amazing Spider-Man # 126, 127, and 130.
The opening splash page of 126 shows Spidey swinging along, minding his own business when two guys who are standing on a roof yell out to him. They’re advertising guys who look a lot like Stan Lee and Roy Thomas (or at least are supposed to) and they want Spider-Man to build a Spider-Mobile using a brand new non-polluting engine (because Marvel was green before being green was cool) made by Corona Motors. I’ve looked, and I cannot find another reference to Corona Motors in the Marvel Universe other than these issues of ASM. It seems that pairing with Spidey did not do wonders for their business. When they ask him to drive around in a Spider-Mobile to advertise, he tells them, “I think the idea of a Spider-Mobile is first class dumb.” I take this as Conway channeling himself through our web slinger.
However, due to not being able to pay the rent (and because even Spider-Man doesn’t go against Stan the Man), he later tracks them down (in their office, not the roof) to accept their offer of a thousand dollars cash. That’s when they let him know that he’ll have to build the car from scratch and they are just supplying the motor. Off Spidey goes to enlist the Human Torch’s help. The rest of the issue is Spidey fighting the Kangaroo and some build up for an upcoming Harry as Green Goblin story.
In the next issue, Spidey swings by the Torch’s place to say some more bad things about his new car and to help Johnny put it together. We get that Spider-Man himself designed it, but the Torch has to figure out how to make it work. The rest of the issue is standard comic fare. Mary Jane acts crazy, Harry is crazy, Peter’s grades are bad, and the Vulture loses yet again.
Two whole issues go by with no mention of the car. But then comes the issue that everyone was waiting for, the spectacular debut of the Spider-Mobile.
The book has everything – the Jackal, Hammerhead, and MJ coming on to Peter Parker like nobody’s business. Most importantly, it has this panel:
It has its own web shooters and Spidey signal per Spider-Man’s design and a little bonus from the Torch – an ejector seat, because, as he sees it, all hero cars need an ejector seat. Spider-Man takes it out for a spin and drives all over the place – the wrong side of the road, the sidewalk – until the Human Torch puts a stop to this nonsense and teaches him how to drive (a lesson Spidey will forget later in Marvel Team Up #88 when the Invisible Girl asks him to take the wheel of her car and he freaks out). Spidey takes down a couple of goons with the car’s web shooters before getting it knocked on its side by an angry Hammerhead.
Later a few police officers make fun of it before Spider-Man webs them up and drives off. The last thing we see of the car is Peter Parker parking it in an alley and hitting a button that disguises it as an ordinary car. Peter is so wrapped up in dealing with Aunt May’s wedding to Doc Ock, that he doesn’t even think of the car for another eleven months. Gerry Conway is moving off the title soon and decides that he must tie up all loose ends. That’s when he remembers that the Spider-Mobile has been sitting in an alleyway in disguise for the better part of a year. Also realizing that as long as that thing is out there, somebody might be stupid enough to bring it back. So he has Spider-Man accidentally drive it into the river in ASM #141. Just to make sure, in the next issue he dives down into the river and decides that it is too heavy for him to pull out by himself. The end.
Only, it’s not the end. Jump ahead fifteen issues later and Len Wein is the writer and he has the idea to bring back the story of the Spidey Mobile. Now, at this point, an editor should have stepped in and put the kibosh on it, but since Wein is the editor as well as writer, he greenlighted it. Spider-Man goes back down to the bottom of the river to check on his wheels only to find that they are not there. Why? Because of this man:
Now the Tinkerer’s status as an alien or not is a matter for another post. He is the one who stole the car and has modified it to go after Spider-Man (a plot later reused in the movie Batman 2 when the Danny DeVito Penguin modified the Batmobile). The issue is titled, and I kid you not, “My Killer, the Car!”
Now this is the issue that had Friday Night Fights written all over it. Spider-Mobile vs. Spider-Man! Thanks to a mysterious gas that not only clogs up Spider-Man’s web shooters, but also takes away most of his powers, and some new wall sticking powers, the Spider-Mobile completely kicks the crap out of our hero.
Fortunately for Spidey, the Tinkerer feels the need to gloat and has the car web him up and drive him back to his hideout on a roof somewhere. During the gloat, Spidey realizes how stupid it would be to get killed by the Tinkerer and decides to end this. He gets free, rips the web cannon off the car, and takes care of business.
In the end, Spidey, being a conscientious fellow, decides he ought to return the car (but not the money) to the ad agency and finally be done with the whole business.
Readers were spared more Spider-Mobile until ASM #600 where we see it in a museum suffering a humiliating fate of being laughed at everyday by museum patrons. It makes two more appearances in some back up stories, not as part of the story, but just in the art work. Once by Dan Slott in ASM #655 and again in ASM #1 Vol. 3.
Slott loves the Spider-Mobile. It appears twice in Spider-Man’s memories during Superior Spider-Man #30 and again as a sentient car (Peter Parked Car) in the infamous Spider Verse.
And because you demanded it, we’re getting a new one with our new Spidey after Secret Wars is over.
Which brings us back to the original idea for the thing in the first place. The toy. If you start looking for the Spider-Mobile toy, most sites will say that the Mego Toys 1976 car was the first one.
He also got a cool Spider Copter toy too. The story goes that Stan Lee is the one who approached Neal Kublan, the guy in charge of marketing for Mego, and got shot down. To add credibility to this story Kublan later said, “When you tell Stan Lee you don’t want to make a Spider Car, he takes it personally.” What Stan Lee did when he took it personally that caused the guy to reconsider is never revealed, but I’m imagining the horse head scene from The Godfather.
However, we here at the Crawlspace are not satisfied with the “official” story. There are holes in it, so we tracked down an old catalog that blows a hole in Kublan’s recollection. Apparently Mego was not the only one Stan approached. It seems that Azrak Hamway didn’t turn Lee down. Check out this page from the Azrak Hamway 1974 catalog:
I haven’t found much commentary on this toy’s origins, but since this one looks a lot like the one Conway created, my guess is that when Mego saw people buying up Spider-Man toys, that had a lot more to do with Kublan reconsidering the toy than Stan Lee taking things personally.
Well, we know that there is a new Spider-Mobile heading our way. What will the future hold for it? Will Parker Industries acquire Corona Motors? Will the Tinkerer return to make more mischief? Will Peter wreck this one too? Only time will tell.
So what are your thoughts on the Spider-Mobile (either past, future, or toy)?
“1974 Azrak-Hamway International (AHI) Toys Catalog.” Plaid Stallion. N.p., n.d. Web. 21 Aug. 2015.
Cronin, Brian. “Comic Book Legends Revealed #530.” Comic Book Resources. N.p., 3 July 2015. Web. 21 Aug. 2015.
Fischer, Travis. “SDCC: Spotlight on Gerry Conway.” Comic Book Resources. N. p. 31 July 2013. Web. 21 Aug. 2015.
Marvel Unlimited. Marvel. 2015. Web. 18 Aug. 2015.
Saffel, Steve. Spider-Man the Icon: the Life and Times of a Pop Culture Phenomenon. London: Titan Books, 2007. Print.
Smith, Ben. “The Saga of the Spider-Mobile.” Comics Cube. N.p. 18 May 2015. Web. 19 Aug. 2015.
“Spider-Mobile.” Marvel Universe Wiki. Marvel. 2015. Web. 21 Aug. 2015.
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All comic book scans are from Marvel Unlimited.
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Well, I’d say the storytelling is more sophisticated in some ways (dialogue) than in others. I mean where this idea done today it’d be set up and delivered in one-three issues. With this its set up and plays as a subplot before you see the car and then is done away with.
I was just commentating on the out of character bits of it since that can be problematic for the story/series.
I feel the thing with modern stories are that in a sense they struggle to write on multiple levels. Even Stan’s stuff for it’s time could be enjoyed by kids yet older college students too, sort of like Pixar films. Spider-Girl was good at that sort of thing, as is modern Doctor Who so it can be done. Basically do new things to entertain older people but also the younger ones. But the secret is what is new to an old fan will be new to the young ones too. The Alien Costume Saga was innovative for people who’d been reading forever, but to someone who’d joined the month before it would also have been something never seen before.
@#23 – Definitely we can’t take it too seriously. Even if we didn’t know that Stan Lee told him to do for a marketing gag, it isn’t too hard to tell that his heart really wasn’t into it. That’s the weird thing about being a comic book fan today. The story telling has gotten very much more sophisticated, but we still love these old crazy tales. If someone told this tale today, we would be furious with the plot holes, the irresponsibility, and the plain in-your-face marketing-driven story line. However, we can look back on this one and remember what it was like to read Spidey as a kid. Writers today have it tough. They have to capture that feeling we had from reading Spidey when we were younger, but also keep it to a standard that we have grown to expect.
@#20 – Glad you liked it!
Great read! The Spider Mobile and the May/Otto wedding are probably the best so bad their good things out of Conway’s run.
I wouldn’t say MJ was crazy in the Vulture arc though. Just shaken by being targeted by a murderer.
Also didn’t anyone find it kind of out of character that Spider-Man would take a car for a drive without ever having had a lesson…in snow??? Isn’t that like SUPER irresponsible for a character who is supposed to be all about that? Not to mention webbing up the cops (although that was just a distraction, they do regard him accountable for murder at this time right?).
And then there’s the fact that the car deals want Spidey to build the car (with no idea if he can even do that) himself, Spidey again being a wanted criminal at this point in time (great promotion there guys)? And Spidey tries to find the dumb car because they are threatening to sue him. But like…he’s anonymous they can’t do anything. Maybe he felt kind of guilty on their behalf. Frankly if I’d had to deal with this crap I think I’d be entitled to the $1,000, especially since the deal was to just build the thing which technically he did.
It doesn’t add up but I don’t think it is something that is to be taken as hard continuity.
Maybe we shouldn’t take that too seriously since Conway was playing all this for laughs and didn’t give a hoot. I mean the car dealers.
Oooops,that should say signed. My bad.
Never mind,I found an article about it online. It’s a fun read so I’m including the link. And yes,I sigend the petition,lol.
http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/spider-man/239635/the-amazing-spider-man-tv-series-deserves-an-official-release
J-R!
Always loved the Spidey-Mobile! Thanks for the excellent article!
TOTALLY off topic here,but does anyone know if the 70’s Spidey tv series with Nicholas Hammond was ever released on dvd? I know here in Europe there were some VHS releases,but I would really like the whole series as a complete box set or something. Who has the rights to the show? I also know there are bootlegs of it. Any info would is appreciated.
J-R!
@ #18 – I love the fact that the second one you found was just the little toy. I guess Azrak Hamway Toys exists in the Marvel Universe. Good eyes on that!
@ #17 – You’ve given me a good idea – no, don’t worry, not a three part detailed analysis of the Gibbon. I’ll take a while to work it out, but I think you’ll like it when I do.
The Spider Mobile also appeared in Mark Millar’s run in Marvel Knight: Spider-Man.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Xo0lQWZEQAwn9bAFYeYSt0qpsZErjSZt7cWwwGL_mmKKZM20Rv-fkgNluMgxnfUDvOmu4ncBtAnAHB-n7LcZrXW-hJyiIonbJQMHqz2xM9-3yRnPstmVE_Ty0Rmd5RxYaE6MwMdCBXlSJmKuAwlg2jZ_M-WHXgHKOsNL4NGyREPhCVNY=w553-h266-nc
Twice if you count this easter egg:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/UZuSJPVDl2ezI7t5TKOQqtJX51Ux_RttIaQ2P1RtE9-sWLHrfVzTgMG77tzCNSGDEi5Q78rAn_FovVV88PJTCDIGkGX5ebpxApFH01UhL4mQkv3QF5rf82k_r3o8BUcKuz7CMzm8jPWAnzRAWac=w484-h304-nc
I was a collector from the 1970s era. I tried to think of the goofiest, most obscure thing I could think of!
@ #9 – Thanks BD! This is a lot of fun!
@ #11, and #12 – Glad you’re enjoying it. Thanks for the kind words.
@ #14 – Be careful what you wish for. I debuted with the Spider-Mobile! Do you really think it is smart to dangle the Gibbon in front of me like that??? 🙂
@14 – The Legion of Losers!!!
Maybe we’ll get a column about the mighty Gibbon!
Peter Parkerfan, JR will still do Spider-History monthly on the podcast. Mark and Thomas will do prose versions on the website every other week. They’ll alternate.
Thanks Mark for a fun and entertaining 1st article.
It’s nice to see a Spider history section back on the site.
Great first article, love the name “Cobwebs”. I love comic history articles like this, especially about Spider-man, so I’m very much looking forward to more of these (and looking forward to more Spider-Mobile!).
So the Spider-history section will be called “Cobwebs” from now on? Hmm, sounds fitting. Let’s go with that.
Mark,
Outstanding first article. I’m really happy to have it on the site. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into this article. I can’t wait for the second one. T. Rob who thought of the name “Cobwebs” is a buddy of mine and I shared the article on his page so he could see his shout out.
I’m looking forward to Thomas Mets’ article next Tuesday.
Thanks again!
BD
Somehow Spiidey Super Stories and the Electric Company doesn’t sound painful to me. I was just a little kid back then, so that stuff seemed aimed at me, although I’m probably better off if I don’t remember too many details…
@ #1 and 2 – Thanks for the kind words. I like the Cobwebs name too. Wish I had thought it up!
@ #3 – We’re going Golden Age influences, so I’m not sure we’ll be out of the painful just yet!
@ #4 – I missed the Spidey Super Stories issue. Thought I had grabbed them all. I never read the Super Stories growing up, but I sure watched my share of Spidey on Electric Company. We’ll be hitting that before too long (Sorry ac – more pain there).
@ #5 – That always bothered me too about them getting that down. JJJ’s been right about that menace all along!
@ #6 – You’re not the only one who that was news to. I searched a lot of places for the original Spider-Mobile and found that one last minute. Most sites I found repeat the Mego story, but there it is in the catalog and it is obviously connected to what was drawn in the comic.
I knew most of this but the part at the end about the Azrak Hamway 1974 catalog was news to me completely. And I’ve been reading since the 70s.
Good job!
I’m sure that I’ve seen “Cobwebs” as the name of the letters’ page in a Spidey book. But that’s where Brad got the name “Crawl Space” so you’re in good company.
Spidey leaves the car hanging outside the ad agency. Yes it’s funny, but remember that Spidey’s webbing evaporates in an hour. Would the ad agency guys have been able to arrange to get the machinery to lower the car to the ground before the webbing dissolved and the car hurtled to the ground, causing damage and possibly killing people? Whoops.
Great first article!
Great debut column Mark! I agree with the others that Cobwebs is a great name.
I’ll always have a place in my heart for the Spider-mobile. My first exposure to the car was Spidey Super Stories #15:
http://www.comics.org/issue/86631/
Spider-Man drives the Spider-Mobile in a charity auto race. Unfortunately, one of the other cars is driven by the Shocker! Silly story, but the younger version of me loved it, and loved the Spider-Mobile. As I got older, I realized that driving around New York made no sense, especially if one can climb walls and swing around on web-ropes.
good job on the article, I look forward to the next “cobwebs” hopefully with less painful subject matter.
My mum always used to say, “cobwebs are free” 🙂
“Cobwebs” is a GREAT name !