Marvel’s tease of a project by Dan Slott and Giuseppe Camuncoli, using only the words “The End,” was revealed today to be a major story beginning in February’s Superior Spider-Man #27 titled “Goblin Nation.” All the Goblin teases that have been going on seemingly forever in the book will continue over the next four months, to be finally paid off in a 5-part story, of which Dan Slott promises, “All bets are off, anything can happen, anyone can go at any second.”
For more on the arc, check out an interview with Slott at comicbookresources.com!
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I will agree with mr. Carter 100% on that he’s practically living vicariously through him with the life that he had growing up. I’m just waiting for “superior” spider-man gets some kind of weight problem and death threats I’m sure it’ll be soon.
I think that Superior Spider-Man is really about the story of the life of Dan Slott. Let’s be honest here. Do you think that he’s the kind of guy whose ever dated a super model, actress, or a super heroine? Of course not. That is why we will never see Peter Parker and Mary Jane together. For that matter, I doubt that we’ll ever see Peter in a close relationship with a super heroine. The one reason why he can relate to Spider-Man/Peter Parker(High School/College version) is because those were the sorts of experience that he went through growing up. In contrast, John Romita, Sr. always paired Peter up with attractive women because he might have dated several of them. And it helps that he did a lot of romance comic books before the Comics Code Authority turned most of them into garbage. And the main reason why Joe Quesada wanted to get rid of Peter’s marriage to Mary Jane was because it did not reflect the sort of reality that he grew up in. Any who has never dated a super model or an attractive girl would not be a fan of Peter Parker dating a super heroine because it was not the kind of life that they had experienced.
I wouldn’t be shocked if in this incredible reveloutionary story that green goblin is unmasked and oh my!!!! It’s dan slott!!! As superior spider-mans number one nemesis. With how slott has practically been making this series about him it’s only the next step
@14 – Doc Ock is Spider-Man’s #1 foe… Norman Osborn is Peter Parker’s #1 foe… think about it.
@14-I’m with you 100% man. Of course when you break down what the characters have actually done Otto is not the number 1 bad guy but the books are just treating him that way.
Norman will be the new Superior Spider-Man
@#9 pete as the goblim? boom… mind blown.
@Jack: You could say that Dan Slott is a product of the 1970’s to the 1980’s because that is the sense that I get from his stories. When it comes to relationships, you might be right that he might get the relationship part of the equation. Sometimes, the stories that we get to read about are the reflection of the writer’s personality. At least I will give him credit towards revealing Silver Sable’s feelings for Spider-Man, which was something that I have been waiting to see since Danny Fingerworth’s What if (vol. 2, #20 and #21). Although, it was a shock to actually see Silver Sable kissing Spider-Man. And when Ends of the Earth storyline was released, with The Black Widow and Silver Sable, it marked a turning point for two reasons for Peter Parker: The Black Widow was the first heroine to kiss him while Silver Sable was to the last heroine to kiss him. This would mean first and last moments for Peter Parker working side by side.
I have expressed the opinion in past message-board comments that I don’t think Slott as a writer “gets” women. Marvel erased the marriage in order to re-introduce the soap opera elements (thus brilliantly making the soap-opera elements meaningless as a result), but the soap opera elements in ASM have either been offensive or dull. Many of the women were objectified — not just Felicia Hardy — or they are cliches. Different ASM writers over the years have done better or poorer jobs with the psychologies of the female characters. IMO, JMS wrote them very well, Slott does not. I would say that Slott is all about plots humming and popping along like rigged gizmos. It reminds me of the A-Team — not much going on in that old series for women, either!
Hi Jack,
Your words are definitely on the mark about Superior Spider-Man. It sucks that Marvel allowed Slott to create a scenario where Peter’s close friends do not know that there is something wrong with him. You could say that Slott had to administer the STUPID PILLS to make everyone around Spock stupid. Otherwise, the ruse would have been exposed sooner. And you would think that the Black Widow and Spider-Woman would have figured it out. I think that Superior Spider-Man will stick around for as long as Marvel allows Slott as the solo writer, which is not a very good thing because we only have one voice. You could say that the main reason why Slott took the job as writer for Spider-Man was to make his childhood dreams come true, as he stated that he only wants to concentrate on Spider-Man and his world. Not to integrate parts of the Marvel Universe. But ever since the whole post OMD era had started, all we been getting is the same recycled stories over and over again. This is why I lost interest in Spider-Man because the character of Peter Parker has regressed a great deal since the whole OMD crap had started.
If they went through the trouble of breaking up Peter’s marriage to Mary Jane, they could allowed Betty Brant to resume her relationship with Peter once again, which would have been much better than the string of forgettable relationships. Even Jennifer Walters(in her human form) would have made things interesting because of her legal background. I never understood why Slott never took advantage of doing a Jennifer Walters and Peter Parker relationship, even Veronica Chase(From Deadpool: Merc with a Mouth) would have been interesting as well. If only they had introduce the Earth-616 version of Dr. Veronica Chase.
ASM sold mediocre numbers for most of Dan Slott’s run. Enough to make a profit and avoid crisis numbers (20-30K). It was better than the Spidey Brain Trust era, because Slott made the series consistent.
I still don’t care for his version of Peter because I think he makes him far too immature for his age, and he is too scatterbrained. Slott’s other characterizations are overstated and one-note, and his trying to force the Glorious Carlie Cooper down everybody’s throats became really tiresome. Slott’s Peter started at point A and stays at point A. In contrast, you can tell how amped his enthusiasm for Ock is.
People follow the Superior series because it has been entertaining, despite its multitude of glaring plot holes. It’s fast-moving (except for the tedious Goblin sub-plot), but it’s starting to run out of steam because you can only tease this scenario out so long until the idea that Ock can keep on fooling this many different people for this long becomes unbelievable even by comic-world standards. I hope Slott hands over the series to somebody new, because after Superior I think the only direction for him as ASM writer is down after this.
@Fred: I agree with you. However, I should have been a specific when I mean about using a gimmick to sell books. When I did a comparison to Scarlet Spider and Captain Marvel, I wasn’t implying about the writers doing a similar to ASM #700. I was inferring about Kelly Sue reinforcing Carol’s friendship with Peter Parker and Jessica Drew that could have been used in the first 3 issues of Captain Marvel where their personal interaction with be that of Three’s Company, which could have kept sales volume at over 40K+ copies for the first 3 issues of that particular story arc where they work together. And the fact that both Carol Danvers and Jessica Drew are attracted to Peter Parker could have mirrored that of Mary Jane and Felicia Hardy, which in itself is a gimmick that is successful.
Reagrding Scarlet Spider, the one gimmick that Chris Yost could have used is having Moondragon in Kaine’s life because she could have helped him to overcome his inner demons. And imagine if Yost had done a timeskip to show that Kaine Parker had gone to college to study Civil Engineering, using the foundation of Peter’s memories and making his intellect his own, and using that knowledge to design things that could help him to solve problems quickly? Imagine if Kaine’s close allies were Moondragon, Red She-Hulk, and Big Bertha while his enemies are Omega Red, Onslaught, and The Enchantress?
#19
“You are correct. However, Slott is very good with using gimmicks, unlike Chris Yost of Kelly Sue.”
No, he’s not. If Slott was as PR savvy as you say he is, Big Time would have been just as successful but it was not. The only reason this gimmick works is because its the death of an Iconic character, nothing more. That’s why Chris Yost or Kelly Sue DeCommick could not do it, because the characters they write for are not iconic.
“I am sure that Dan Slott killed off Peter Parker because he knows all too well that life as a Spider-Man writer doesn’t last forever.”
Dan killed off Spider-Man because sales were not very good. It barely got above 60,000 and that happen on a good month. They killed him off to get word of month going for the book and get readers interested in when the real Spider-Man was coming back. Its the same strategy that happen with Superman ( Death and reign of the supermen) and Captain America ( Death of Captain America and Bucky taking his place). Notice how quick sales dropped after those stories ended and the characters came back to the series after they died.
“Superior Spider-Man is the best gimmick that has kept him on top of the sales charts.”
Its a hyped event that Marvel hypes up and down with every issue being a game changer in terms of new revelations. Once it ends, watch the sales drop back to where it once was.
“Something that Scarlet Spider, Agent Venom, not Captain Marvel has ever achieve as far as exceeding over 50k copies a month on a consistent basis.”
Those books do not have the death of an iconic character and the mystery of when he is coming back. You’re comparing apples to oranges here.
@Fred: You are correct. However, Slott is very good with using gimmicks, unlike Chris Yost of Kelly Sue. A good gimmick, for example, that Kelly Sue DeCommick could have used for the first arc of Captain Marvel was taking advantage of Carol’s relationship with both Peter Parker and Jessica Drew by having all three of them working together in a classic throwback of Three’s Company. I bring up Three’s Company was because Janet Wood and Chrissy Snow were both attracted to Jake Tripper. In addition to that, the actors who played the characters where very close friends off camera. So I could imagine Jessica Drew and Carol Danvers both being attracted to Peter Parker in the same manner as Mary Jane and Felicia Hardy. That might have been a fun story arc to read about.
As for Scarlet Spider, I never understood why Chris Yost never used any gimmicks to attract some of the Spider-Man readers away from Dan Slott? He could have brought in Moondragon who could have helped Kaine to confront his demons through their mental exercise and martial arts techniques, for example.
I am sure that Dan Slott killed off Peter Parker because he knows all too well that life as a Spider-Man writer doesn’t last forever. And Superior Spider-Man is the best gimmick that has kept him on top of the sales charts. Something that Scarlet Spider, Agent Venom, not Captain Marvel has ever achieve as far as exceeding over 50k copies a month on a consistent basis.
As usual, I’ll pass.
Just waiting for Spider-Man to be Amazing again.
@#1
Let’s put it this way. I’ll be d***** surprised if it does.
#12
“As long as Superior Spider-Man continues to outsell the competition, Peter Parker will remain DEAD, until Slott leaves”
Outsells what competition?
#15
“Superior Spider-Man is doing very well because Slott is a great PR/Advertising Guy”
The reason it sells is because the whole storyline is a gimmick. Like the death of Superman and Captain America. Spiderman is dead and people want to know when is he coming back. It has nothing to do with Slott’s PR or writing skills. Once the whole gimmick ends, so does the sales spike. If Slott was a great PR guy, Big Time would have done theses numbers but it did not. Proof that the gimmick of Spiderman being dead is the only reason people are picking up the book.
Superior Spider-Man is doing very well because Slott is a great PR/Advertising Guy. Too bad that Chris Yost never did that sort of PR work with Scarlet Spider, nor did the writer of Venom ever did that.
I’m honestly a little affronted that Otto is bumping Norman Osborn out as Spider-Man’s #1 nemesis. For real, when I read ASM#700, that was one of my complaints. I like a good Doc Ock story as much as the next guy, but when I read that I was like “too far.” Ock just doesn’t deserve this level of clout as a villain to me. Norman is SUCH a better character, and is directly responsible for ending the Silver Age of Comics. . . Just my opinion.
I enjoy Superior but it’s not Spider-Man. Really surprised each month with how well the book sells.
As long as Superior Spider-Man continues to outsell the competition, Peter Parker will remain DEAD, until Slott leaves. That won’t be anytime soon. I suspect that Superior Spider-Man might last up to issue #100.
@#9- I’m not quite sure about that, but I do feel the revelation will have people expressing the “What? What? How? What?” But not in a good way. Less “I did NOT see that coming” and more “How the hell did THAT come about?”
If this is going to be the last arc, shouldn’t it be a big return of peter crossing over the other books where slotto is a part of? But if it is, I hope we get to see the superior six he has been collecting in his basement.
@#4 Mycroftian–Yes, it does look rather “Amazing” doesn’t it?
@#7 RDMacQ–Agreed. Moreover, when I see this quote from Dan Slott in the interview: “something’s going to happen in “Superior Spider-Man” #19, the last issue of the Spider-Man 2099 arc, and when that happens Spider-Man fans are going to have a lot of questions. People are going to be going, “WHAT? WHAT? HOW? WHAT?”‘ I have hunch (although I could very well be wrong) that we’re going to see the Green Goblin unmasked, only instead of Norman Osborn’s face, it’s Peter Parker’s.
Unless this comic means the Death of Doc Ock Spidey and the rebirth of classic Spidey I don’t care. I’ve had it with this series.
This will probably be the last arc of Superior, which will probably lead into a relaunch of Amazing Spider-Man sometime in April. I doubt we will get any information on the relaunch until sometime in February.
As much as I fault them, the creators do manage to schedule these things so that they work withing the preview schedule in order to avoid spoiler upcoming arcs.
Well im on edge for this one
Lots of rah-rah, almost zero real information.
That mask looks suspiciously unlike anything Otto’s been sporting. . .
With the linked article, it all but says Norman will be back in some capacity, just doesn’t commit to him wearing the outfit. That’s a cool possible take on Norman’s role in the Spidey-Cast. I find it funny that the Goblin symbol is over Superior Spider-man’s head. Maybe Otto is finally over his head when he takes on this new Green Goblin. I look forward to hearing JR’s take on the upcoming event and if he thinks it will pay off.
#1: Movie comes out in May, April overseas
I wonder if this sets up the return of Peter.
Since there is a new movie out by July…
And this arc likely ends in march?