Spider-Man Editor Steve Wacker contined to argue with former Spidey writer J. Michael Straczynski. JMS then had enough and wrote this.
Wacker: I asked you politely not to come in here with a flame thrower and engage in insulting behavior. I said, very clearly, that if you continued to do it, you’d be deleted. You did, so I did. I gave you ever possibility to have a civil conversation. You chose otherwise.
Current Amazing Spider-Man writer then alerted JMS that negativity exists on the Internet.
Quick note to JMS… You might be interested to know that the site that Ari Abramovsky just linked to here on your Facebook page (the same site which produced the erroneous chart, which plotted ASM sales Post OMD, using inaccurate Diamond Estimates AND– my favorite part– throwing OUT the TOP TWO-THIRDS of that “data”) is now taking shots at you, Joe, and having laughs at your expense. Thought you should know.
JMS then informed Slott about what to expect online.
And y’know what? He’s perfectly within his rights to do so.
Let me try one last time to explain this: if somebody wants to slag me — which happens a lot in all kinds of places, including some run or frequented by some well-known writers — that’s their option. As long as they, like me and all other good citizens, stay on the right side of the libel line…by what right do I go in there and challenge him to a duel?
If I feel I have the right to say what I want on my own page, then I have to allow someone else the same right or the whole thing falls apart. I’m sure whatever he’s saying is on a par with what your associates are saying on their own pages. And I support wholly their right to do so without interferance from me. If I object when someone comes in here breathing fire, then I have to respect their rights as well to run the conversation their own way.
Dan, you’re a decent guy and a good guy. Also a really great writer. I appreciate that you’re concerned there’s somebody out there saying mean things about me. But I spent most of my adolescence and teen years as the Geek in Residence being laughed at, picked on and having mean things said about me. And the world didn’t end. Wasn’t nice, wasn’t pleasant…but the sun didn’t explode.
People are gonna say what they’re gonna say, good, bad or indifferent. But I don’t have to respond in the same way.
So thank you for the heads-up, but it’s okay. As long as everybody stays legal, I respect his right to his opinion, and support his right to express it.
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@#20 & #21 Mr. Wacker, if that is really you, (hard to tell on the internet) I’ve gotta say I’m very disappointed. You’re in the public eye, so kindly grow up.
Farewell, hardest trolling Marvel editor around…
@22: You had said we were waving “we hate Marvel” signs. I don’t hate Marvel. If I hated Marvel I wouldn’t go see Marvel movies. Do I hate Marvel because I enjoyed Rick Remender’s Doctor Voodoo? I do not hate Joe Quesada. I’ve met him before, many many moons ago, and he was very pleasant. I’m sure he’s a nice enough guy. I do strongly dislike what he’s done with Spider-Man and much of the Marvel Universe, sure. That doesn’t mean I “hate” him. Am I disappointed with the way Marvel’s gone the last several years? Do I wish things were better? Surely I do. But I don’t “hate” anyone for it.
@21: Bye Steve. Everyone say farewell to the hardest trolling Marvel editor around.
George, don’t try and tell me that you don’t hate marvel, Joe Q, OMD/BND. I know that you wear the tinfoil hat to stop the nasty mindwaves getting you.
Parabolee…I do a little more than that. I appreciate your concern though.
For my sake, I hope you’re never my boss!
SW
Tonight…a special episode of George Berryman: Internet Policeman!
Always feigning offense…always wrong…ALWAYS FOR YOU!
SW
You should back that up. I was agreeing with #10 in regards to #9.
Yes really what George?
@14
Yes. Really.
@Michigan lol “lesson learned”
@14
Discussing an arguement that took place between to creative talents is not hating on marvel. This is the type of thing fan bases in any medium discuss when it happens.
@10. Really?
I don’t agree with either side on this. . .But I do find it funny that Slott came to defend his homeboy. Also, Whacker posted this on Twitter shortly after getting banned:
“I have been kicked off the JMS site. Lesson learned.”
Wait, you mean Slott/Wacker are blaming the fans now? Well, I for one am shocked at this completely unexpected turn of events!
/sarcasm
@#9
Not sure if trolling…
“as opposed to waving “we hate Marvel” signs”
Who is waving the hate Marvel sign? Please back that up.
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Do you know how every time there’s a similar blow up between a pro and fans, we discuss how it should be handled? THIS. This is how you handle it. Kudos to JMS for being an adult and a professional.
It’s like a horror movie where you think the bad guy is dead and he just gets back up again to torment you one last time!
Wacker is a disgrace to Marvel, all he does is drag the debate down to the mud and fight with fans. He is the worst possible spokesperson for Spider-Man and Marvel. And while Slott is better, he also should know better to avoid public bickering with other writers, it’s just bad for the company as a whole. If you need to bicker, keep it private. And if you have an issue with the fans, keep it to yourself or address it in a respectful and diplomatic way. You don’t argue with other creators in a public forum and call fans names in other public forums. It’s outstandingly unprofessional.
I know I saw a few people siding with Wacker for some reason, but I think JMS (despite me not being a fan of his work) is right: it’s HIS page, and he should be able to post whatever he wants. If other people don’t like it, tough luck.
Was that an attempt by Slott and that Ari guy to shift all the blame on this altercation on you, K-Box? Or is he pointing at us again?
I’ve never beem more embarrased about this company, Tommy Pickles has better social skills
Oh Wacker, it’s like you want to be deleted from every board you can find!
How is this still going on.
It just keeps happening.
And I’m not even DOING ANYTHING.