Amazing Spider-Man writer Dan Slott took to his Twitter account to talk about the Crawlspace.
He claims he was banned from the site a year after he left the site. To set this mis-information straight, Slott had one warning against him for personally attacking a message board member. Everyone gets three before they’re banned.
Editor Steve Wacker was recently banned after his third warning on this news thread. I wrote in depth why he was banned on that link.
I’ve never talked to the Twitter user Travis Fowler before and I’m curious why he hates the site so much to prompt “FN Crawlspace” line. Feel free to tweet this to Slott and Fowler so they aren’t confused in the future.
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Who got who fired?
Are you suggesting Brad does what I say? I wonder how Brad feels about that.
He could always just “rehire” the DelaTour(is there payment for that gig?)
SW
@#39
There IS no double standard. they have the right to do so… but was the “F’n Crawlspace” emphasis really necessary?
Hey Ben… you got him fired from his reviewer position already. You want him off the site too?
And that’s the exact “tunnel vision” I’m referring to. I don’t need Gerard speaking for me. And no one else does, either.
… you may resume trolling, since you seem to miss it so much, Stephen.
#34
I’ve never insulted this site. Just the opposite. In fact I’ve complimented it many times and even donated money…unlike most of you. It makes Brad’s selective memory even more puzzling. But the bullies have pretty much taken over here. It’s hard for some of the regulars to stand up, I’m sure.
SW
Since he’s so quick with the “fat” insults…do we know that DelaTour isn’t overweight?
I don’t know WHY you took this guy off reviews…he’s a great representative of the site. It’s like your whole message board distilled down into one guy.
I say give him another chance.
SW
If you ever post the audio, I just ask you play the whole thing and not edit… as was promised.
SW
The lack of self awareness in this thread is mind boggling.
Hey by the way, haterz, Slott didn’t pay for his cover, it was a surprise from me and Todd.
SW
Hey, what happened to that audio interview I did with your crew in San Diego? Weird it hasn’t been posted. It was long.
SW
@39 – the general consensus seems to be that Wacker and Slott are wrong to respond to criticisms of their work here, so why the double standard? For what it’s worth, reporting stuff like this is not going to have any real effect other than making the Crawlspace look defensive. Anyone with half a brain can see that Brad does a great job – he doesn’t need to prove anything to anyone.
These types of posts would be more fun if Wacker was unbanned
@#40
Especially if they’re snarky and directed at said person…
Oh, I’m sorry. Did you mean to leave that part off?
Welcome the the Twitterverse, where, when you’re a celeb, even one only known by comic book fans, the things you say will be reported by the appropriate media of your genre.
… So the general consensus I’m getting that he should just turn the other cheek, and not say ANYTHING? I’m going to say it again… why not go ask these people to knock it off, so we don’t get to this point. Brad not getting upset about anything is not going to make stuff like this go away. Stop acting like it’s his fault.
last time i checked, you don’t pay money to read peoples twitter feeds or to use the cbr message board. does that mean that we don’t get to be mad when they say stuff. if we are using your logic that you pay for this site and run this site, therefor you can put whatever you want, without us being able to get mad about. Does’nt that mean that you can’t get mad about what people say on twitter or cbr boards. that is “free” as well.
Also, just because you “can” doesn’t mean that you should. For a person running a site about a character who’s main catchphrase is “power and responsibility” you are not acting very responsibly. You obviously dislike slott and are just looking for him to slip up so that you can tear him apart. Do you understand that you have put this site out into the public and just for that reason you have a responsibility to take the higher road. i understand that there is bad blood between you and the spider-office right now. take the high road instead of the low road. are you going to post something every time a person says something false about your site. i would think that being a father and a husband would be more important than scouring the internet to find every person saying something bad about your site. but now you know how the writers and artists feel when you critique their work. It is not easy to hear negative things about yourself. Wether justified or not. You guys have been doing a good job on the podcast lately of being fair in your criticism. Where a few years ago, there were things said like “sucks ass” “Total shit.” So I do appreciate productive criticism. Which is what I am trying to give to you. Take it however you want it. I am not bashing you or this site. I am just telling you what I don’t like about it. Just like you do on the podcast about the issues that you read.
It seems to me that they may have said something a while ago. I am not doubting that. But i still hold true that you posted false information. After reading the whole twitter feed, nowhere does slott say he was banned. he actually says that he closed his account. how is that slamming the site. and even if he did say “they banned me” how is that slamming the site. this site is better than this. Brad, you are better than this. act responsibly no spitefully.
p.s. I may not pay to visit this site, but 3 years ago, i opened up an account with mailordercomics and made sure to tell them that i am using them because of their sponsorship of your show.
Brad, I think that you are a great guy and I love your site, but for me this is too much. I can totally understand why you would be hurt by someone criticizing something that you have devoted so much time and attention to, but I think you need to accept that when you create something that is hugely popular (and the Crawlspace clearly is) that are you going to receive a certain amount of criticism. If anything, as difficult as it may be, its best to take it as a compliment and a sign of your websites success. You are more than within your rights to post what you want to, but in my opinion all posts like this, and last weeks CBR thread do is breed negativity.
After having read the CBR thread on the front page I find it highly ironic that a single comment from one junior member of the forum (which led to virtually no response if I remember correctly) has led to such widespread hatred towards the entire forum, many of it coming from some of the more prominent Crawlspace members. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you want to dish it out then you should be prepared to take it too. Just my opinion.
@#29
The next time you or any of your friends want to take a jab at Slott, leave us out of it. You’re not speaking for this site, and you’re really not helping anything.
@#30
Irrelevant, and nobody cares… yet YOU cared enough to come here and post this? Here’s a tip. This started somewhere else. Next time, try going over there and spreading your “message of joy” first. And say someone over here started throwing insults at Slott, and someone made it public knowledge. Would you go over there and get ugly with Slott like you have with Brad? Magic 8-ball says I bet you wouldn’t.
This is pissing you off. I can relate. All this unnecessary slamming of BD is kinda pissing me off too.
@#33
Yes… yes it is. The smiley face is hardly what I call a solid excuse. At this point, with the history between him and this site. It would be best if he just dropped it altogether and didn’t bring it up anymore. Wouldn’t that save us all a great deal of grief? After all, no one’s making tongue in cheek comments about him over here are they? Gerard, behave. Anyway, if there wasn’t any bad blood intended with his comments, he’d be making them OVER HERE… AS A MEMBER OF THE SITE, don’t you think?
As for posting the exact same thing about any other site? I’m willing to guess if said other site were to ever speak up about it, you’d be doing the exact same thing you’re doing over here. Defending him. And just as it is here, I’d say you were wrong then, too.
Brad’s proud of this little hole in the wall he’s carved out. So he has the right to get a little upset when someone speaks badly of it. I bet he doesn’t take the smiley face as a legitimate excuse, either. If this is going to stop, it’ll have to start with Dan. Someone tell him to just let it go, already.
Slott knowingly mischaracterized what happened here at Crawlspace — I say “knowingly”, because it was his own action. That’s lying.
You all know that Wacker & Slott deliberately say these obnoxious things, because it gives them malicious pleasure, and they hope that Brad will react. They mimic the behavior of 13-year-old children trying to provoke fights at school. Every time a donkey brays in the neighboring field, there’s no need to point at it.
@28: It’s not lying if he’s repeating bad information someone else gave him that he thinks is true. He’s not correct, but that’s not the same as lying.
@32: It’s still not meant to be insulting. I can see him posting the exact same thing if it was a different site he found out he was banned from even though he hadn’t been to it in years. Whether or not the joke was funny is irrelevant as the point I’m trying to make is that it wasn’t meant as an insult.
@29: So the entire thing that kicked this off was meant as a tongue in cheek reference and not a serious “slam” on the site. There were no intended insults to the site at all so that makes this news item, to steal a Nostalgia Critic line, “entirely pointless.” Thank you Travis for clearing this up.
@#26
“That’s just reaching. The entire thing is overly sarcastic as it’s meant to be a joke. And if that wasn’t any clear indicator of it being a joke then the “:p” at the end cements it.
Unless someone is going to try and tell me that “:p” means Slott sticking his tongue out mockingly at the Crawlspace insulting the site even further. [that was a joke]”
The problem here is… “jokes” like that are NEVER funny, and 9 out of 10 times, they cause the results you see here. You want laughs… try telling REAL jokes. Like funny ones.
Xantos-Aren’t you a bundle full of internet hate. Glad I paid for the bandwidth for you to insult me. Have a great Friday.
This is ridiculous. Not that someone would slam this site on Twitter, or that Slott has said what he said, but that YOU, Brad would actually put this on the front page. You want to defend your site from hate? STOP DRAWING ATTENTION TO THE HATE!? THIS IS EXACTLY WHY people say such things! I really like this site, but it pisses me off to see you posting this like it is relevant. Nobody cares. Move on! Your reactions are childish and immature, and you’re only making yourself look bad, you’re not making Slott look worse. Brad, you’re being your own worst enemy. This isn’t even worth posting on your site.
I am Travis Fowler, also known as travazz on these forums. I’m sure someone can cross reference my IP addresses.
BD I have yet to receive a DM, email, or @ message from you concerning this.
I made the statement on Twitter after reading the 3 post tweet from Slott. So I made a tongue in cheek statement about the Crawlspace. It was meant as a tongue in cheek joke, knowing all of the problems that Slott and Wacker have had with this site. I thought that the tweet was made towards the Bleeding Cool post on the front page and in the forum. That was all it was meant to be. I was wrong for assuming that Slott was talking about the Crawlspace. At the time of the tweet, it was nearly 1 or after 1 in the morning and I was getting back from a midnight release of Justice League 1. So not thinking all I put down was FN Crawlspace. It was just a reaction tweet. Also, I never in a million years thought he would have even seen it, let alone respond. I guess it’s just a saying that I have. I worked at Verizon Wireless for years and anytime a call would drop, I would say FN Verizon ruins cell phones. Do I hate Verizon, no. Do I hate the Crawlspace, no.
I personally have no problem with this site at all. I’m not an active poster on the forums, but I have listened to the podcast since episode one, I found it and The Amazing Spider-Cast the same week. I also used to get on the site in 99, when I was a junior in high school.
I apologize to Brad and the entire Crawlspace for the misunderstanding. I never meant to hurt anyone’s feelings or start an uproar. I was completely wrong in assuming. This has definitely made an ass out of me.
Please realize this was a mistake on my behalf and I never meant anything by it. It was just a quick, off the cuff, not thinking, remark. Nothing more, nothing less
Slott lied, is the point i see.
@18 It’s just a shortened version of the world ‘F**king’.
@25: That’s just reaching. The entire thing is overly sarcastic as it’s meant to be a joke. And if that wasn’t any clear indicator of it being a joke then the “:p” at the end cements it.
Unless someone is going to try and tell me that “:p” means Slott sticking his tongue out mockingly at the Crawlspace insulting the site even further. [that was a joke]
@24 Chaosinc… putting the ‘ban-worthy’ in quotes can seem kind of insulting and overly sarcastic… it could insinuate that the ban hammer is frequently dropped for unjust reasons or something along those lines…
This is the problem with Twitter… you can’t fully express yourself (and therefore shouldn’t limit yourself) to just 140 characters 🙂
@BD: So saying someone told him he was banned from the site, which he doesn’t know is true or not, is “slammed the site” now?
You read the “scary to think that I did something ‘ban-worthy’ in my absence. :p” as insulting? That’s clearly a joke on somehow being banned for a site he hasn’t been to in years. He’s not saying anything like “those dicks over there hate me so much they banned me when I haven’t been there in years!!!!!” it’s a simple joke on the situation. Even if the situation is not true it was still meant as a joke.
@Zakc- In reference to this post, “Brad works for a news station and should understand to verify news before putting it out there and calling it fact. The credibility of this site, in the last week and a half, has gone down hill fast.”
The reason I posted this Slott item is because what he said wasn’t true. I don’t want anyone passing along mis-information about the site. The writer of Amazing Spider-Man commenting on the site is news worthy. The CBR post from last week was also mis-information that I wanted to clear up. A lot of it stems from similar posts from Slott and Wacker who have on several occasions taken digs at the Crawlspace. They have a forum to talk and this is mine. If you add up the monthly numbers more people visit this site than buy Amazing Spider-Man in a month. So I can’t help it if this get more views.lol
As far as the Slott story on the Amazing cover I cited Bleeding Cool as reporting it. However I love how you challenged my news judgment. Once Slott made the statement that it was untrue I did put an update to that post. If you’d like your money back for visiting this site, I can issue you a refund…oh wait.
Chaosinc-Slott “slammed the site” in the fact that he stated that he was banned from the site which isn’t true, he also implied that we’re so unfair here that even is someone doesn’t post for a while we’ll make up new rules and ban them on a whim. I don’t know how you can take that as anything but insulting.
@20 – He’s done so in the past – usually on his Twitter, Formspring or CBR, which has also tried to cover up at least one of his tantrums before by deleting it altogether. He has a long tradition of going after this site. He didn’t mention the site by name there but that’s exactly what he’s doing. I understand you don’t see it that way but it’s part of the history between Slott and this site.
I don’t see where Slott “slams” the site. Someone talking to him on Twitter slams the site but Slott doesn’t say anything negative about the site.
While yeah he’s wrong about being banned he does say someone told him that and he hasn’t been on the site in years so he doesn’t know either way.
#19 Mr. Berryman. Nothing you said is wrong. I am commenting on the fact that nowhere on twitter did “slott slam crawlspace”. And if that is true, explain why there was a post on the front page about some random cbr poster. That has nothing to do with “Spidey or related to Spidey via the people that work on the books. cartoons, movies – past, present or future”. How is posting this on the main page relevant to what is going on with Spidey?
@17 – He didn’t close his account. He asked the Admins to and they did so. By that time he’d already been warned for his behavior towards our message board posters.
This site doesn’t play favorites with writers, editors and artists. They’re welcome to come here and discuss the character and the comics with us but they’re held to the same standard other message board members are. Slott and Wacker prefer the CBR system where they can be as abrasive as they want to the fanbase. That’s not how we operate here. At different times they were both warned for their behavior towards our members (and other members were warned/banned for how they interacted with Slott & Wacker.) Slott left; Wacker was eventually banned.
“welcome to tmz.spider-man.com”
We’re a Spidey fansite. If it’s Spidey or related to Spidey via the people that work on the books. cartoons, movies – past, present or future – then it’s all news here.
Funny how Slott seems to wish there was a double standart -Where creators could say anything and everybody should only talk to sing their praise.
Btw, could someone tell me what FN means? English isn’t my first language, so what i know of it I learnt it at school. I get thats it’s a derogatory term, but i don’t get the exact meaning…
@13 Slott clearly says that he “closed my account there, over a year ago.” Where in the above post does Slott claim that he was kicked off. That is 2 posts that have been put up on this site that were factually incorrect. This one and the one about Slott paying $4,000 to be on the cover of an ASM issue. Brad works for a news station and should understand to verify news before putting it out there and calling it fact. The credibility of this site, in the last week and a half, has gone down hill fast. Just focus on the positive stuff. Leave all the negativity behind. It becomes enticing to post controversial things, because it brings more people to a site, but you don’t have to do that. Just be a fun and entertaining site about Spider-man. Comics should be fun and the last week and a half, this site has not been much fun to visit.
I’m missing something here, what did Slott say to slam crawlspace? The only thing I see on his twitter is him responding to someone, saying that someone who posts here told him he was banned.
I’m afraid to see how Slott conducted himself on the message board. Would hate to find myself not liking the guy and having to read his work. Hopefully he’s just sticking up for his buddy Wacker, I find it hard to believe he would approve of the way Wacker acted here though.
Have enjoyed Slott’s work on ASM so far, not sure if he is a supporter but BND was not his idea anyway so I don’t begrudge him as writing in a post BND world. Nothing he does with Carlie Cooper makes me hate her less though.
The only creative guys at Marvel I have issue with right now are JQ and Wacker. JQ has brought about the worst event and worst period in Spidey’s history, and worse he did it in an arrogant way. Also the writing he contributed to BND/OMD/OMIT was probably the worst I have ever read. But I do not judge him as a human being because of these things. Although I did find his attitude patronizing to the fans at times, I still have never (to my memory) insulted him on a message board/comment thread.
But I was SHOCKED and appalled at Wacker’s conduct in the comments thread of the Crawlspace. It’s one thing for obnoxious kids to be childish, belligerent and insulting on the internet. It’s another for someone involved in a creative product to act the same way.
I have never before seen a creative person act that way towards the fans! What would Stan Lee say?
isn’t the title “Slott slams crawlspace” that doesn’t seem like he is trying to set the record straight. That seems like taking the low road. I don’t want my comments to seem like I don’t like brad. I have been listening to the podcast since the 2nd episode. I actually share a birthday with the site. Aug 8. This site is on my favorites tab. But within the last 2 weeks, this site seems more like tmz, perezhilton, etc, than it does about “all spidey all the time” tagline that this site is supposed to be.
@11
Actually Brads reason for mentioning this on the front page is logical since its being used to correct something Slott got wrong. He claimed he was banned when he wasn’t it was wacker who got banned while Slott left on his own and thats really all Brad said in this post, don’t see whats wrong with him wanting to set the record straight.
@TonyD117 and BD: Well, that’s a fundamental difference between us as human beings, I guess — the two of you are idealistic, stick-to-the-principles guys, whereas I’m a jaded as shit, society-no-longer-HAS-principles guy …
welcome to tmz.spider-man.com This site is better than this. I know it is Brad’s site and he can do whatever he wants, but seriously………let it go. I remember like a week ago, there was a front news post about some obscure cbr message board poster and he bashed the site. How is that Spider-Man news. It’s not. Brad, now you see what writers, editors, etc, have to deal with. When you put yourself out there, some people are going to hate just to hate. There are going to be people that (no matter what you do) will have something negative to say. Ignore it. You are acting no different than the people you have problems with. You have every right to defend yourself. But so do they. Really, this isn’t news. Why is this on here. If you have beef with him, send him an email. Don’t post it on the front page. I come here to read about spider-man, not what individual people think of your site. my 2 cents. commence the telling me how stupid i am now in ….3…..2……1
Alex,
No worries.
As far as Mr. Fowler I asked him on Twitter why he hates the site so much to say “FN Crawlspace.” He hasn’t replied yet.
But Travis Fowler is definitely taking a shot at the site, you can’t deny that.
Brian,
Yeah, I’m more of a Facebook person. I never got into Twitter.
Oh no, I don’t take offence to it at all. I’m sure you could take it as a slam against the site. Like I said, thoughts of the Crawl Space must have been included when he mentioned widespread criticism. I’m not defending Slott at all, the constant shots against the site annoy me, as we’ve seen from him, Wacker and CBR. It’s just here, as I read and interpreted it, it didn’t seem like he was attacking the site. Just the way I read it.
And alliteration is always awesome 😉
Twitter is going to be the straw that breaks the camels back in the downfall of civilization… worthless, terrible site
I agree with Tony, I ask the pros to be respectful to the readers and vice versa. Those that can’t do that will be warned and then banned. It’s not that complicated.
Alex, since you seem to want to re-write my headline go ahead. How would you write it? The alliteration of the two “S’s ” works for me, but you seem to take offense to it, so be my guest.
I wouldn’t really call that a slam. I’m sure the widespread of criticism included the Crawl Space but it wasn’t really attacking it directly. The ‘scary to think…’ comment seemed in jest to me.
@ Gerard – The Crawlspace should never lower its standards to deal with situations like this. Rise above it and continue to set the bar for other websites to try and reach. That’s why this place is so special. Let Dan and Wacker spout off, someday(and that day grows closer every minute) they’ll be off the Spider books and then no one will care what they think anymore. But the Crawlspace will still be here.
I remember Dan leaving and asking for his account to be closed or removed. I know he wasn’t banned. Then he was going to block the Crawlspace on his computer so he couldn’t access us anymore. Funny how some people choose to remember things…
I think it’s only fair at this point that if Slott wants to continue talking shit about us, we should be allowed to talk shit about him — he shouldn’t be allowed to be protected by the “no insults to comics creators” rule anymore.