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1. I’ve been meaning to ask… but is that a picture of the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? What’s the point of that? Is he upset about the Spider-Man movie as well?

2. #98 Andrew C – Now you’re just trolling me and the site. 🙂

3. Making a series about why the Spidey movie will or will not suck a year away from its release is one of the dumbest ideas this site has had in a while (and it’s had some dumb ones). There’s nothing more painful than someone trying to be funny or clever and just failing on every single level (despite trying to ape their style, you’re no cracked.com columnist). I think the overall shoddy quality of this piece is as much to do with its poor reception as any misunderstanding about your intent or tone. How did this even get approved in the first place? You’re either related to Brad or you’re blackmailing him with some compromising photos you took. That’s the only conclusion I can arrive at.

4. #96 Iron Patriot – Not really what I meant. I was exactly the kind of nerd you describe, in fact you could be describing me in 1992 (with different bands of course). But I don’t think things have changes since then either. I wasn’t saying nerd HAD to be “short, skinny and science minded, but I was saying that Peter Parker did not fir the description of the type of nerd I was and you are. I can’t speak for you but in my experience, us “punk” nerds were not straight A students loved by the faculty. Peter was, and appears to be something very different in this interpretation.

   @#95 Andrew C – LOL, you don’t have to read it. You can skip it and wait for my “Why The Amazing Spider-Man Movie is Going to Awesome” article. Or skip both, whatever 🙂

   @#92 – Oscorp Cafeteria – Time will tell. I really truly hope you are right, but I think the other things he has said and other information we have (see the next article) don’t support that interpretation. I think it’s clear that Marc Webb is saying that because nerds are now empowered by the success of a few nerds (which I do not think is true for socially awkward science nerds in high school at all), Peter will not be a nerd of that type in this movie, but will be an outcast in what he thinks is a more contemporary context. Check the next article for what that it appears that Marc Webb’s “contemporary context” outcast is.

   On the second quote you posted that is from a newer released interview. I agree 100% and I have no problems with what he said there at all. He was responding to the question “is Peter cool in this movie”, I’m not arguing that he is trying to make him cool, just different.

   And also don’t presume that I am down on every aspect of this movie based on these articles. Several people have claimed I just want to hate this movie. Completely missing the point of the editorial.

   It would not be a very interesting article if I gave the movie creators the benefit of the doubt on everything until we see the move. I am only concentrating on the aspects that disappoint me because the intentionally controversial title is “Why the Amazing Spider-Man movie is (probably) going to suck)”!

   I am saving all my praise for the “Why The Amazing Spider-Man Movie is going to be awesome” – also note the LACK of the world probably in there!

   I’ll admit the venomous tone that was supposed inject some additional humour into the article clearly failed to connect with many. But the point of the article is to play devils advocate with the information we know. And since I announced I would be offering counter points to myself at the end of this first article, I thought more people would be less reactionary and willing to give me the benefit of the doubt of not being just some blind hating troll. Had I realised the humorous intent of the venom would fail to come through for some and be the sticking point for so many, I would have toned it down.

5. I disagree with you(not violently, though) on the “Nerds should be skinny, short, and be SCIENCE! minded”(Not how you worded it, but it was the impression I got) I’m 15, 5’11, and I’m in a rock band, listen to all kinds of music(If you look in my iPod music you’ll see the Batman 89 score, a few songs of My Chemical Romance, the soundtrack of the musical Moulin Rouge, some Simple Plan,and a hell of a lot of Filipino music) and I play some sports. But then, I have overprotective parents, wear comic books shirts, usually eat lunch by myself in school, have never had a girlfriend, get depressed a lot, don’t have a lot to do on Friday nights and I got made fun of a lot when I was a kid up to high school.

6. “I am busy at work on the follow up article.”

   Please God no….

7. The writer of this piece is getting served.

8. Another Webb quote: “I think he’s (Peter) really relatable. I think there is a humor and a wit to him that we will roll out later, but I wanted to approach it with an emotional authenticity and make the world seem more relatable Listen, there’s an earnest quality to it, but there’s certainly a lot of humor and fun that’s part of Spider-man, which we are really careful to honor.”

   Agree again, nothing wrong with this either.

9. Webb: “Nerds are running the world. Andrew Garfield made a movie [called “The Social Network”] about it. Nerds are no longer pariahs and knowing how to write computer code is longer a [mocked] quality. What was important in those early comics was this notion that Peter Parker is an outsider and how we define that in a contemporary context. That, I think, was one of the challenges for us — getting Peter Parker’s outsider status to be current.”

   I agree completely with this. I am putting it in context. Peter Parker will not be running the world, just have the reflection through new media/social media that people like him have shaped the modern world in fundamental ways. And people who aren’t nerds/outcasts also have this knowledge, through media, films etc. This is I believe what Webb meant when he said they aren’t the pariahs they used to be. There will always be nerds and outcasts and those who pick on them etc, but the meaning of being a nerd in the context of the world has ben re-calibrated. It has empowered them to a degree in which they didn’t have in the past.

   Parabolee: “To me he is saying that they have to define Peter as an outsider in terms other than being a nerd because nerds are now “running the world” and are no longer pariahs.”

   No, just that the “meaning” of being a nerd has taken on a different social context, which it has.

10. @90 – Haha well good to hear! I’m lookin forward to that one, as I’m someone who has faith in this reboot 😀

11. @87 – You may be right, but I think my interpritation is closer to what he said –

    “Nerds are running the world. Andrew Garfield made a movie [called “The Social Network”] about it. Nerds are no longer pariahs and knowing how to write computer code is longer a [mocked] quality. What was important in those early comics was this notion that Peter Parker is an outsider and how we define that in a contemporary context. That, I think, was one of the challenges for us — getting Peter Parker’s outsider status to be current.”

    To me he is saying that they have to define Peter as an outsider in terms other than being a nerd because nerds are now “running the world” and are no longer pariahs.

    @88 – Yes I know what pubk rock is. Want to see my punk rock collection and photos of me in high school. Peter as a DIY attitude in the way an engineer has one, not a anti-establishment punk rock kid. My point is that Peter was not anti-establishment, he may have some of that post becoming Spider-Man yes. But we are talking pre-spider bite Peter.

    @89 – Which is pretty much what I will be doing in the already announced “Why the new Spider-Man movie will be awesome” section!

12. I’ve got a lot of stuff going on this week, but if I get the time I’m going to write an article for my blog that’ll counter this post point by point and give the opposite perspective, Why I think the Amazing Spider-man will be Amazing.

13. Do you all even know what punk rock is/was? Punk, if it can be consolidated to any cores, was anti-establishment and DIY. Peter’s got a pretty DIY ethic. He makes freaking webshooters, he designs and constructs his own costume, he finds his own path in life with his powers despite a wealth of establishment options (make money, get famous). If we ignore the punk aesthetic (that was such a small part of original punk), then getting bent out of shape about a “punk” comment is ridiculous and misinformed about what the word means.

14. @Parabolee

    “@#79 Oscorp Cafateria – That is not what I said at all. I know he is still going to be an outsider. I was taking issue with Marc Webb’s absurd assertion that being a socially awkward science nerd no longer makes you an outsider. Which is the justification to make Peter something other than a socially awkward science nerd in order to make him an outsider. And there is no need to be so rude, especially when it was you that misread what was written.”

    I don’t get from his quotes that he WON’T be a socially awkward sciece nerd. Just that the context has changed from being one in the 60’s/70/80’s..to being one in 2012. Basically he won’t be the COMPLETE WALLFLOWER you said, and will basically have a bit more spunk or “rock ethic”. This is all I took from his quote. I hadly think the character will be changed in a fundamental way. Maybe spend more time meditating to relax, rather then blow off steam in a socially awkward way…….

    (joke)

15. #84 Andrew C – Crucifying me for missing one incorrect word in a 2700 word article is a bit harsh my friend. I’ll correct it, sorry I don’t have an editor or time to go over this with a fine tooth comb. My bad.

    #85 Pete – There are those that have stated they enjoyed the article and look forward to more. You do not have to read them if you are not entertained by my humour or interested in the points I make. And I assure you, I am more than willing to be persuaded by positive news. Maybe at least give me the benefit of the doubt until I finish the articles with my section titled “Why the new Spider-Man movie is going to be awesome”, before you judge me.

    For those interested in discussing the minutia of the movie (we are after all Spider-Man geeks here), the gist is not enough.

    I’m not tolling. I am attempting to humorously critique the direction of the movie based on the facts that we know. Of course I am looking for reasons it won’t meet expectations in the article, that is the articles premise. You should not feel you have to agree with me to enjoy the content.

    I am busy at work on the follow up article. So I will try and refrain from continuing to argue my case in the comments.

16. this may be a bit out of line, but i don’t really think that any further installations in this series (the “why the amazing spider-man is going to suck” series) are necessary. the humor is not there, the opinions/interpretation of quotes and “facts” are way off base, and as a whole, it’s a very negative concept. you’re clearly looking for reasons to say that the reboot will not meet your expectations, and we, as your readers, have gotten the gist of your opinion. you won’t be swayed by any potentially positive news, and you won’t accept that your basis for the initial article (Marc Webb’s quotes and your subsequent analysis) was shaky, to say the least.

    simply put, there is nowhere to go from here. you’ve effectively alienated your readership, and the tact you’ve utilized to decry the reboot is equivalent to an angry forum rant. it isn’t too far off from someone saying that any upcoming or present Call of Duty title (to use a hardcore video game fandom as an example) will not and cannot be a quality product, etc. etc. “CoD sux and always will.” is a pretty common sentiment held by folks who troll video game message boards. This article (and its following segments) are essentially just long, drawn-out troll posts. and that’s kind of sad.

17. ” then it was OK for him to revision who these characters are”

    You couldn’t take a minute to proof-read this incoherent and totally unnecessary mess? Revise is the verb form of “revision” as any fifth-grader knows.

    First you guys ban the editor of the actual Spider-Man comics and now you’re putting crap like this on your front page. Real shame. This place used to be quality.

18. @#79 Oscorp Cafateria – That is not what I said at all. I know he is still going to be an outsider. I was taking issue with Marc Webb’s absurd assertion that being a socially awkward science nerd no longer makes you an outsider. Which is the justification to make Peter something other than a socially awkward science nerd in order to make him an outsider. And there is no need to be so rude, especially when it was you that misread what was written.

    As for the incarnations, yes it was inaccurate. He said there were many. The only ones that fit his criteria are “Chapter One” (cancelled and almost universally loathed) and “Ultimate”, and if “Ultimate”. If they are basing it on Ultimate, then why call it “Amazing Spider-Man”. And why would you base it on a series where Peter has been killed! If Ultimate was so great, then how come they killed Peter off in it? And if fans loved it so much, how come there has been such a small amount of backlash over Peter’s death? I f I was a big fan of that continuity, I’d be pretty upset at them killing Peter Parker!

    I think the changes he describes go beyond what was done in Ultimate anyway, and I’ll even get into that later. But regardless, the existence of the Ultimate comics does not justify making an “Amazing Spider-Man” movie which has such little respect for the source material, you know “The Amazing Spider-Man” comic.

    @#80 Sthenurus – I do realise that in the 50+ years of “Amazing Spider-Man”, that there has been some poor writing that had Peter out of character, but poor writing in SOME issues cannot justify changing who he is. And the stories you cite should have no relevance to his origin story. The stories you cite were Peter during different periods of his life, with very different things happening to him. We are talking about his origin, and who he was before he became Spider-Man. And I said there is room for interpretation, but that should not go to the extant that “it is a different Peter Parker.” (as Marc Webb states).

    And as for the costumes. I do not think it is fair to cite the temporary gimmicky costumes as a justification to mess with the classic suit. And those variations of how the classic has been drawn also do not come close to the changes made in this one. But we are getting ahead of ourselves, I didn’t even get into the costume in this article. We can get into this after the next article.

    @#82 LudaChris – As I have stated before, I am not “bashing the film when we know next to nothing”. I am criticizing the direction of the film based on the facts we do know. I made few if any presumptions in this article. Almost everything was based directly on the words of the director.

19. I’ve been reading spider-man comics for my entire life, and I disagree with you in almost every single way. I also don’t know understand how you’re bashing this film when we know next to nothing about it.

20. TLDNR

21. Parabolee
    You do realise that Peter personnality have varied a lot from wirters to writers, even in front of the very same situation right? DUring the clone saga, aunt May died, Peter ditch his “human self” and Became the Spider. In 2010, aunt may dies and Peter makes a deal with the devil. There ALWAYS was room for interpretation, and there will ALWAYS be. And the costume was changed many times IN CONTINUITY. Some exemple: the symbiote suits, Ben Reilly’s spider-man suit, and recently the FF suit… thats without counting the variations from artist to artist (size of the eyes, the web pattern, the armpit webs, the spider symbols etc…)

22. Parabolee: “Let me make this clear Marc Webb! Just because some nerds are very successful, does NOT change the fact that in high school being a socially awkward science nerd STILL makes you an outsider!”

    “Duh! He will be an outsider in the movie. Did you just learn the english language? Was something lost in translation?

    Parabolee: “Other than these “incarnations” we have a bunch of silly limited-series Spidey’s (like Marvel zombies, Noir Spider-Man and Indian Spider-Man) and “What if” Spidey’s that are intended as silly alt universe tales. So what the man really means is: he read some “Ultimate Spider-Man” and thoughtbecause that comic did it, then it was OK for him to revision who these characters are, even down to Spidey’s costume (which even Ultimate did not touch).”

    Yet Ultimate is different, and the true inspiration for the movie. So there was nothing inaccurate about what he said.

    Parabolee: “adolescent Peter Parker is the LEAST punk rock kid in the world! He’s the ultimate SQUARE! A “wallflower”, a “bookworm”. I can’t imagine the Stan Lee Peter Parker rebelling against anything other than maybe the teacher not giving him enough homework!”

    Well according to reports and even you, this isn’t the Stan Lee Peter Parker of the 60’s, it’s the Bendis Peter Parker of the 21 century.

23. @#76 Jon – LOL, I might just do that 🙂

    But if I don’t, I will at least try my best to “crystalize” what I think their interpretation of Peter is.

24. #75 Two-Bit Specialist – Come on my friend, now you are just trolling me. I didn’t say that one quote alone. I wrote a 2700 word article that included far more than that. You said I was taking quotes out of context to inaccurately claim they were changing who Peter was, I was merely stating that quote alone proves my point on that.

25. @Parabolee

    And to follow up on my #72 post, you said that you will take Webb at his word. So it should be fairly easy for you to write the new Peter Parker. If you have trouble coming up with scenes, take old scenes from the comics, or scenes from Raimi’s films. Yes, that’s even better! Take scenes from Raimi’s films, take out Tobey, and insert your crystal clear understanding of Webb’s Peter Parker. Really give him that “punk rock ethic” from the quote that you took so literally. At least it will crystalise to us what exatly your interpretation of a “punk rock ethic” to be. Look forward to this.

26. “enough of a reinvention that it is a different Peter Parker.”

    So, yeah, one quote and the WHOLE movies sucks. That’s basically what it boils down to.

27. @Parabolee

    Well the changes in Batman didn’t bother me, but from what I can tell (and I don’t go on Batman sites so I could be wrong), these changes are not a noose or anchor around the neck of the franchise. And those changes would be more aggregious then what you are infering Webb is doing IMO.

28. @#68 John Simms – To be honest I am not enough of a Batman fan to care about those characters. So I have virtually no opinion on changes made in those movies.

    @69 Pete – You ask for more evidence that Peter is being changed beyond recognition. Well I will continue to offer more evidence believe me, but I think the words from Marc Webb were pretty clear –

    “For me, it’s enough of a reinvention that it is a different Peter Parker.”

    I’ll go on to investigate who this “different Peter Parker” is, but I think that alone and especially with the other comments is enough evidence that Peter is being changed substantially.

    @#71 Two-Bit Specialist – Again I’m not basing my opinion so far on the 3 minute trailer. I wrote most of this article before the trailer was even released. I am going on the words of the creators at this point. And “quotes out of context”? Well time will tell on that, but I for one take Marc Webb at his word. And his word is pretty clear. Again –

    “enough of a reinvention that it is a different Peter Parker.”

    Take that, add in what he said about him not being a nerd, but an outsider and having a punk rock instinct and what you have is clearly not the Peter Parker of the Amazing Spider-Man comics.

    And as far as you saying it would be a colossal mistake by Sony if he was “changed beyond recognition”. Let’s be clear of two things. We are talking about Peter and not Spidey, from what I read they are getting the Spidey part right. And Sony don’t care about our opinion. If it sells movie tickets, then it will not be a colossal mistake from their point of view.

29. @Parabolee

    Tell me how you think Webb’s quotes will manifest themselves within the film. Perhaps it will give us a chance to glean your insight better. Maybe a few scenes how you think new Peter Parker will react to certain situations as opposed to YOUR Peter Parker. You obviously have enough information to go on to achieve this. Maybe do a comparison between the two. I mean in a fundamental way of course, not in some anal nerd nit-pick way in which most people would care less about.

    Maybe it’s just anal complaints like the skateboard and headphones. Maybe you think Peter would only walk or moterbike to get around when he doesn’t use the subway. Maybe the headphones aren’t intellectual or intropective enough for Peter. Skateboarding has only taken off in the mainstream the last twenty years, maybe they should have eliminated that mode of transport because of this reason. I mean if Ditko or Romita never put Peter on a skateboard, then it has to be a bastardization. Maybe you think Peter should have smiled more, whether the scenes they chose to show in the trailer dictated that or not. Maybe you wanted to see a scene with a sweater vest as opposed to a t-shirt and jacket. Or maybe you wished he got bit on the hand instead of the neck, and that blasphomous act of trea – oh wait….

    I think this could really help your case, buy giving us just a little taste of your gospel.

30. “I don’t think this really comes across as joking or satire, it just comes across as the stereotype of a nitpicking nerd who’s afraid of change.” – JB

    This. Parabolee, when you said this was a satire, I thought you meant you were portraying the stereotypical whiny nerd, but then your further comments made it clear that you do actually believe Spider-Man is being changed beyond recognition (which I find absurd. It’d be the a colossal mistake by Sony to do that). I think most people didn’t get the “satire” part of it and took you at face value because you didn’t ramp it up enough.

    What’s worse is that, while I do believe everyone is entitled to their own opinions, it’s a little harder to accept those opinions when they are based on 3 minutes of the final film and quotes that were taken out of context. There are better ways to get “people to start talking.”

31. Webb’s comments about Peter’s “punk rock” instinct reminded me of the “updated” Ditko panels from 80s Marvel Tales:

    http://assistanteditorsmonth.blogspot.com/2011/06/marvel-tales-159.html

    So far, the biggest problem I have is Andrew Garfield. He’s 27 years old, same age as Tobey McGuire when ‘Spider-Man’ was released in 2002. Why not cast a younger actor if you want to dwell on the character’s “adolescent” qualities?

32. i haven’t seen any evidence, here or elsewhere (and i have been following this reboot since day 1, and have always been pretty optimistic), that suggests that they are actually changing Peter Parker. for someone who enjoyed the original trilogy, despite the inherent changes they made to Peter (aka having no personality/no sense of humor/pouting a lot), you seem very eager to trash another film’s “changes” to the character.

    as someone who has read all of the amazing spider-man books, would you point me towards the issue wherein peter parker is a huge dick to his uncle after he gets his powers? just saying.

    i think we all understand that you were going for a humorous vibe, with the desire to show what perceived “changes” marc webb intends to make, but you very simply can’t make the sorts of accusations you’re trying to make without any evidence. if you thought that marc webb mentioning “punk rock,” or that Parker now has a skateboard, means that the character has changed beyond recognition, then i think you’ll need to rethink the substance of your “evidence.” hopefully, as you move forward with your articles, you’ll make sure to be a bit more credible and objective about the interpretation of your sources, instead of just shitting all over Amazing Spider-Man because you don’t like the fact that they’re moving upwards and onwards with the franchise. We get it.

    also, it doesn’t seem very zen to yell “a string of incoherent curse words at my iPad screen for a few minutes” after you read that Marc Webb is trying to modernize the idea of an outsider/nerd. relax.

33. @Parabolee

    What are your thought on Nolan creating the Dawes character in BB and making her part of Bruce’s upbringing? What about Ra’s al Ghul training Wayne in the film and not in the comics? Does that not contradict the comic canon? I’m not really a big Batman fan so I’m not sure of the exact particulars, but I’m pretty sure none of this happened in the comics. Was there an uproar on Batman related sites about this? Are there still? Or are the relative quality of the films superceeding the concerns canon history?. Perhaps you don’t know yourself or even care, but this idea that making alterations to suit the movie is new is silly/ And there are other examples in other films I’m sure. And I’m not suggesting that Webb is doing any of this. Updating something is not changing the spirit or essence of something.

    But at least those films have been released and this thread is just speculation. I’m sure you’ll tell me that those were superficial changes and this is a fundamental change. But I would reply that your evidence is slim other then your own perception of things.

    And I’m not sure your future evidence will prove anything if it offers the same insight that this article has. But knock yourself out and take another drubbing.

34. @66 Parabolee – yeah, I get the intent and see what you’re going for, but I’ll just need more evidence like I said. I’m not ready to sell the movie short on a few quotes that can interpretted different ways. I’ll read all your follow up entries to see if you can sway me, but I won’t hold your breath on winning me over just yet. 🙂

    I know MJ was around before Gwen and know that they weren’t serious until after Gwens death and that is partly what brought them together and much closer. But in a 2 hour movie I don’t think they need to be wasting time on setting up two different love interests so going with Gwen since she was his first great love in my opinion is a smart way to go. Maybe a cameo by a red head would work, but they don’t need to develop MJs relationship with Peter until Gwen is out of the picture. I doubt they’ll kill her off as well, but it would make for a great movie.

35. @ #64 Velamor – LOL good one!

    @ # Brian Bradley – It is my intent to offer evidence that these are in fact mountains, and that Peter is being changed virtually beyond recognition. If the quotes from Webb describing his vision of Peter did not convince you, then I hope the further evidence I have in future articles will.

    On the MJ / Gwen issue. I have no issue with Gwen being the love interest. I would prefer MJ as a big MJ fan, and never having been fond of Gwen. However it is a common mistake to say he dated Gwen first. He actually dated MJ first, and Betty before that (with brief flirtations with Liz Allen even earlier) However when he dated MJ prior to Gwen it was not a serious relationship. However I highly doubt they have the courage to kill the female lead in a follow up movie.

36. @Webhead

    Tell me where in any of his music videos or in 500 days, where Marc Webb is trying to convert us, or shove his supposed christian beliefs down are throats? I didn’t realise you were such an afficianado of his work, lol. To bad he no longer has his website up, or you could have really sounded like an expert. How would you have interpreted the exploding lamb?, I’m sure it would have been educational. Who knew the mere sight of a lamb could cause such distress. Do you have the same aversion to holy water?

    And Peter Parker will not be fundamentally changed. Wait till the movie comes out.

37. HERE’S AN ANGRIER PIC OF STAN LEE, ACTUALLY: http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p39/AlexLee07/stan-lee-the-incredible-hulk-los-angeles-premiere-arrivals-jcpPtd.jpg

38. @62 WebHead… I don’t really see how Peter is being changed that much though. Sure they’ve said they’re reinventing him, but that’s what happens when a new person comes on board. They try to put their own touch on it, and since his story is 50 years old or so, they’re just trying to modernize it a bit, which is also common. My main concern is the whole skateboard thing, I’m not a fan of that, but I personally haven’t seen anything so far that makes it such a drastic change. He was still a kid orphaned at a young age and raised by his Aunt and Uncle. From what I’ve seen/heard he’ll still be an outsider who probably doesn’t have a lot of friends. He’s obviously going to be big into science since he makes his webshooters and outfit. I don’t think we’ve seen that many drastic changes to his character yet, at least not enough to warrant any alarms going off. If they had him dressed up as a goth with a spiked collar and black trenchcoat or something, maybe that would be enough of a drastic change to the character to cause concern. But so far I don’t think too much has been changed, at this point it’s making mountains out of molehiles in my opinion.

    Admittedly, I am not a big spider-man history buff, although he’s my favorite hero. I have not read every single issue of Spider-Man like some people, but I don’t think that makes me any less dedicated to the character. As far as MJ not being there, I’m glad she’s not. In my opinion Gwen always came first so I’m glad to see that she is getting the spotlight this time around. The only problem with that, is if this is supposed to be following Ultimate, then yes, Mary Jane should be there. But this movie looks like it’s more of an amalgation of the Ultimate and Amazing universes so I am ok with Gwen being there, especially if we can build it up to her dying in a later movie.

39. one last note…and no it is not to bash Marc Webb again… I don’t get it… no one is commenting that Parabolee mentioned, probably the main reason for the article, that Peter Parker is being changed. A huge Spidey fan would be pissed that they are changing Peter….oh well.

    Not to mention that MJ is not with Peter…. WTF.

    MJ for life!!!!

40. brian, thanks for respecting my opinion.

41. @59 WebHead… I just had to do a google search to see what you were talking about. Had no idea he directed some of those music videos. The Brand New video in particular I’m quite fond of. Has it ever been said that this is what he was going for with that trademark? And I only saw three references to him doing that in his music videos. Don’t recall a lamb in 500 Days of Summer, but I wasn’t looking for one at the time either, so I don’t think theres any reason to believe he’d put one in Spider-Man. I agree that religion should be kept to itself, but I never got the impression that the lamb in the Brand New video was jesus related… I also don’t think that makes him a goon, but to each their own.

42. you know what? Marc Webb is f’ing clown shoes. i hope this movie doesn’t look like a crappy music video with a cameo of a baby lamb. that is Webb trying to put you in touch with Jesus. that is what makes him a goon. keep your religion to yourself.

43. @#51 Miguel R. – Plagiarism is a serious charge, and I assure you that I have never seen or heard of that article. And I’m not afraid of change within reason, my argument is that they are changing Peter to the point that he is not Peter at all. My problem is not that it is change, but that it is not the character that I love at all. Sorry that the humour didn’t work for you, I’ll outright admit that what I think they are doing to the characters I love, leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. But my intent was to entertain, not suger coat hate. I’m actually a Buddhist, I try not to hate at all.

    @#56 Web-Head – I have not seen it, but read detailed descriptions that didn’t inspire hope. I will get into it in the next article. And believe me, I hope you are right. I would like nothing more than to be wrong and to love this movie. And if that is the case when the movie comes out, expect a full retraction in my review 🙂

44. I’ll do like that one guy from Superherohype and say this:
    “I support the reboot, and a fan of the new costume”

    About Peter’s personality and what I got from the teaser, they got things right

45. I saw the SDCC footage in person and it was freaking awesome.

    I bet all the haters minds would be changed if they saw all that.

46. IMO Spider-Man fans will get another re-interpretation that is off canon by a long shot. No matter what, I don’t expect Hollywood to get it right to satisfy most fans, especially when it comes to Spidey. I found the first (3) movies to be OK, but if I wanted to be a continuity fanboy whore, (like Harry Potter fans…) for the many things Raimi got right, there is plenty to piss and moan about that was not.

    But despite the predictable shortfalls this movie is sure to have in regards to comic canon, this movie’s biggest challenge is to convince everyone this reboot is a good idea. With its predecessor, being so well received, this will be an uphill climb. This movie already has more pressure to deliver positive elements (costume, casting and story) than the original films and the studio knows it. The battle for “buzz” is underway, and we all know how important that is. How many of you have already been asked by friends, if you are excited about this film? If the trailers or PR pics are making you go “meh”, then the battle for “buzz” is already being lost and that makes studio bosses nervous.

    For me buzz does not matter, nor does it matter to the studios. I am out of their targeted demographic.
    For what it is worth, I remember the first time I saw the Green Goblin costume for the Raimi films, and I feel the same way now about these new films after seeing the new Spider-Man costume…Dread.

    Here is to this movie not sucking…good luck, Marc Webb. You are going to need it.

    PS: To the author of these editorials, good luck. Hopefully the sarcasm drips a little more obviously on the next installment.

47. I had a hard time reading this and I’ll admit i couldn’t finish it. I got the basic point to it and I think your seriously looking for a reason to hate this movie. Calling myself a huge Spidey fan is of course silly since this while site is nothing but huge Spidey fans, but I think this is going to be a great movie. Sure the origin story is being redone but I’m ok with that.

48. the original trilogy was crap house. a fresh start is needed and this looks nice and fresh. mac webbs last film was great and andrew garfield and emma stone are great actors. id take the new costume over the organic webb shooters any day of the week. And every one talks up the rami films, i own all three and never seem to watch them. Spider-man is my fav super hero, peter parker is my second fav character (ben Reilly is first) in the whole marvel universe, and i prefer watching the dark night, iorn man 2 and the incredible hulk, before i eve think about watching spider-man 1,2,3.
    I really belive in mark webb and what i have seen of the movie (pic and trailor) have got me excited. I think this is a great time to be a spider-man fan. the comics are going good, the new game looks awsome and so does the movie, cant wait for its release.

49. Your first article and we’re up to 50 + comments. Talk about starting off strong. Good job and the whole purpose of an editorial is to get people to start talking and man you accomplished that quite well. You also took quotes and gave your opinion on them, hence why it’s an editorial.

    I’m not as pessimistic about the movie as you are, but I do agree that everybody and his brother knows the origin. I hope the movie doesn’t spend too much time on it.

50. “I don’t think this really comes across as joking or satire, it just comes across as the stereotype of a nitpicking nerd who’s afraid of change.” Now that is a great line. Even though I disagree with the writer of the piece, I could easily except it if the underlying intent wasn’t just so bitter. You say you wanted to use humor to express your views, but I got the feeling it was more an attempt to sugar coat your hate. Now if I’m wrong about that, I’m wrong. Not to mention this piece borrows heavily from Josh Tylers piece from Cinema Blend (particularily the obscured views on Webb’s quotes). And I use the word piece loosely.