Spidey is assigned to substitute teach for the members of the AVENGERS ACADEMY. But when the PSYCHO-MAN interrupts them on patrol, the school of Hard Knocks quickly becomes a game of life and death!”
“The Substitute” part one
Written by Christos Gage
Illustrated by Reilly Brown
Inked by Victor Olazaba
Colored by John Raunch
Lettered by VC’s Joe Caramagna
Cover art by Ed McGuinness and Morry Hollowell
“Just Another Day”
Written by Paul Benjamin
Illustrated by Javier Pulido
Assistant Editor: Ellie Pyle
Senior Editor: Stephen Wacker
Editor in Chief: Axel Alonso
Chief Creative Officer: Joe Quesada
Publisher: Dan Buckley
Executive Producer: Alan Fine
THE PLOT(s): Giant Man approaches one of the Future Foundation to substitute for the Avengers Academy class in superheroing. Spider-Man volunteers on the basis that he used to teach and misses teaching. Throughout the class, Spider-Man’s previous doubts are realized when the students don’t take as well to the training course as he’d hoped. In the backup, Peter has a typical day as Spider-Man.
LONG STORY SHORT: The Psycho-Man reveals himself to be behind Spidey’s doubts. Though Spider-Man overcomes them, the Psycho-Man then has the brainwashed Avengers Academy kids attack the webslinger.
MY THOUGHTS: One of the biggest problems, if not the biggest problem I have with the new direction of Amazing Spider-Man is that, more often than not, characters and situations will be elevated at the expense of our main protagonist. Single or not, what offended me the most with Brand New Day and some of Big Time is that the character of Spider-Man was seemingly reduced to an ineffectual, inexperienced whiner who was by and large a shade of his pre-2008 self. It wasn’t a central shift in characterization meant to be recognized as a new form of Spider-Man. Rather, the sense from both the writers of the book and the characters surrounding Peter Parker’s world is that he’s always been like that. A comment here, a goofed up execution in heroics there, it all became too much to the point where I repeatedly kept dropping the book after disappointment being my only reward for giving it another chance.
Conversely, progression is one of the central themes Dan Slott has employed in his Big Time run that many of us are praising. The re-introduction of Peter Parker’s ingenuity, gumption and determination were welcomed along with Slott’s overflowing bucket of continuity references with open arms. This is what fans have said they want to see in Spidey’s comic: A proud acknowledgment of the past while Peter Parker ushers forth toward the future with the same characteristics as he’s always had.
For the most part. Kinda.
This issue has me at a crossroads in that I’m not sure if it is endorsing one aspect of Peter Parker or another. It all depends on how you analyze the plot. Essentially, the Psycho-Man is said to have been playing on the fears of Spider-Man, making him doubtful of his own capabilities and resentful that the other heroes don’t acknowledge it. This has all been revealed after we get most of an issue with Spider-Man constantly whining about being a teacher, not sure if he can hack teaching the Avengers Academy kids, and generally displaying a real lack of self esteem. But the idea, if I’m understanding this correctly, is that the Psycho-Man is behind it all.
I am not very familiar with the Psycho-Man. I do not know how much of his power is sustained for a long period of time, or if he needs to be consciously affecting people, or if he can just *POOF* out a spell and people will feel negative emotions or not. So the crux of the plot really hinges on how this works in the issue. Admittedly this is a fault of mine as a reviewer and a reader for not being familiar with the character, but then again it’s the fault of the writer (Christos Gage this time ’round as opposed to “Dandy” Dan Slott who’s apparently off working on Spider-Island) for not informing me of the guy in the first place.
That’s the thing with exposition in this title, it picks and chooses who, when and what to explain. It works to varying degrees as well. For instance, I know why and when Spider-Man lost his Spider-Sense, but it doesn’t hurt to inform new readers to the event whenever Peter thinks about it. Similarily, I appreciated learning who the Avengers Academy members were and what they could do as I’ve never read their books. Now I question why not indulging the reader with information on the Psycho-Man when everything was was all but spelled out. I understand that he’s a long-time F4 villain, and if he needs to be explained then why not go ahead and explain who Giant-Man is as well but it does present a definite problem. Without knowing what exactly the Psycho-Man can do, I’m left not really sure if Spider-Man was under his influence or not during the issue.
Consider ASM #658 where the child members of the Future Foundation talk about how much of a immature man-child Spider-Man is. That rings as so annoying off the mark that it’s a prime example of why I would repeatedly drop the title. I, among many other people, do not like being told in the story that our hero is a lame human being. Besides all the decades of stories and examples where he’s proven that he’s anything but, it also just rings as needlessly cynical, as though we need to like Spider-Man because he sucks or something. A lot of us must have missed that memo, but whatever, it’s in the issue and now part of the series.
Now consider the page preceding the Letter’s Column:
Praise is issued to Slott, giving the impression that Slott’s solo run on the title has resurrected it from a state of badness or plain blandness, or even just that his run is a lot better than those that have gone before him. Other writers don’t necessarily have to have bad runs for Slott’s run to be good.
But another interesting thing to note is a letter by one Ritchie Tiongson.
“I won’t go into detail about how much I hated the whole BND idea. It’s sufficient to say I’m one of those who hated it with my very soul…It felt to me like Peter had regressed…Then several months ago, I read a web article about Dan Slott taking over AMAZING and his ideas for Big Time. Everything in that article sang to me…My Spidey was back. I haven’t missed an issue since.”
This isn’t to suggest that Marvel wouldn’t print letters that would say anything negative regarding anything they’ve done in the past. At the same time it’s getting across the notion that Dan Slott knows the character of Spider-Man in ways that the previous writers off the past few years did not. And what’s being suggested along with that notion is that the writers didn’t get the character of Spider-Man because they wrote him in a state that was characteristically regressive to what is once was.
So in this issue, we have two sides of the same coin. We have a very self-doubting, angsty Spider-Man contrasted with a very determined, proactive Spider-Man. I love the way he takes down Psycho-Man, fighting through the fear and doubt because that’s exactly who he is. But as cool as that was, as much as I’d love to give Gage credit for writing Spider-Man the way I and many others want him to be written, it’s still very odd that this was presented to us as a Spider-Man who when acting like he has in the past BND era may as well have been acting under the influence of a mind-controlling super villain. It rings as dishonest to the writers who wrote him before, and while I would very much like to be under the assumption that every time Spider-Man has been written out of character in the past it was due to a super villain, the fact is that it’s not what Marvel wanted to get across to the readers. From the Breevort Manifesto to panels with Joe Quesada at conventions, we’ve been given the impression that Spider-Man is exactly what those writers wrote him as, which was less than favorable in the eyes of everyone around him in the context of the comic. Now he’s all of a sudden written to be above that. The problem is that while characters can be written in different ways by different writers, the fact that a story seemingl goes out of its way to portray one of those ways as false is just outright disingenuous to the writers that came before. Do you see what I’m getting at?
Getting into the particulars about the issue, I really liked the artwork by Reilly Brown. It was simple and clean, and I liked how he drew Spider-Man’s mask. It’s along the lines of how I approach the design of the mask in my own artwork and I thought he pulled it off better than I do. (which isn’t hard admittedly) As for the back-up, I liked it fine for what it was. “Just Another Day” is basically a ‘Nuff Said story and it was nice and entertaining in providing some vignettes about a day in the life of Spider-Man. Nothing incredible, but special in its own small way.
In first reading this issue, I was ready to really hate it due to the preview. After all, Spidey’s never had problems teaching kids back when he was a teacher, so why start now. I really thought Gage was going for an inexperienced, doofus Spider-Man. But with the revelation of why he may have been acting that way, I ended up really enjoying the issue. But going back and thinking about it, there is a very real cognitive dissonance in how Spider-Man is being presented to the masses and to the readers. I’m going to grade this issue a .5 less than what I would have liked to grade it purely on confusion alone. Hopefully it’ll all make more sense after the next issue.
3.5/5 webs.
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I think some Troll just has a power fantasy trip on this site. Not cool bro. The real Stephen Wacker would be disapoint in you son.
hope?
So I’m NewGal, Nicharee, RTKG, FauxStephen Wacker, NOTStephen Wacker, FauxDeadWalrus, Fauxratpack223 and Steve Wack.
We know that Troll is the real Stephen Wacker because?
I think you’ll find that Stephen Wacker is none other than ME.
I’M KEV BOX!!!!!
I’m Stephen Wacker!!!
No, I’m Stephen Wacker!
What if SW is K-Box and K-Box is SW???
Mind. Blown.
niiice…
I lol’d
MFW!!!!!
Don’t mind me. Just checking if it’s possible that we all have been trolled by a SW impersonator.
Telling someone they are not welcome here is kind of a dick move, don’t you think?
But I’m new, what do I now?
*cough* Gail Simone *cough* scansdaily
@134
I don,t think the Lizard is going to stay that way permanently. The Hobgoblin sure didn’t. But Kurt is a more interesting character than Macendale, so I think they could make good stories out of his son’s death.
@#132 That’s too bad, Marvel Adventures, most of the time, was actually far better than the regular title. though I’ll admit that it lacks the depth of storytelling of the older issues. I did love their version of Captain Stacy and how they allowed his bond with Peter to grow, in a way that we were never able to see in the regular title because of the captains death.
Did you just say Marvel Adventures are stupid?
IT’S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG MISTER!!!
@#130, I understand what you mean, but there’s a small difference.
See, the one thing that made Lizard interesting, was his human side. I never cared for Carnage, because he was pretty much just this boring unfunny Joker wannabe. I liked the Lizard because even at his worst, some part of him still cared for his wife and child. That struggle between the man and the monster, that was always there is what made him a good character. By taking that away, and making him all monster, they’ve basically robbed the character of the very thing that made him stand out beyond your average ten in a dozen reptile monster type.
It’s like when they ruined Sandman, who was interesting as a former villain trying to walk the straight and narrow, but when they turned him back into a villain, he became a boring cliché thug. Of which there are far too many already.
Not to say that it can’t be fun to have the occasional bad guy who just wants to rob damage, steal stuff beat people up,… but I just want more than that out of my favorite villains
Stephen, you’re in the middle of a car crash here in regards to your argument. You’re simultaneously leaping from the defensive – “Oh Noes Why Are You Guys Attacking Meee!” – to the counter-offensive – “You’re Just A Horrible Person And Being Coached And You’re Wrong About Everything!”.
Pick a side, Stephen. Be mature.
Or better yet, please just bugger off. We’re sick of your whiny, paper-thin arguments and casual verbal abuse of people to whom you should be apologising. Why not try doing some, you know, work?
@ #127
Marvel Adventures is todays version of Super Spidey Stories. That’s not juvenile fiction is just stupid.
My son (9 years) and his friends often go my library to fetch some comics to read and most of the times it’s Spidey (I don’t push that stuff btw, they do it on their own). But not the stuff you suspect. They don’t pick Marvel Adventures, not the current material, they almost always go straight for the stuff from the 70’s. Amazing, Spectacular and Marvel Team-up. They love this stuff, find it the most engaging.
Marvel Adventures they often don’t even look at.
Hi Lore.
I (from personal experience) found that fiction doesn’t influence people’s behavior that much.
Other people and pier pressure does a good job at it though.
I was a fan of H.P. Lovecraft when I was a kid. A really big fan. I was never influenced into racism because of his work.
I was a big Superman fan. Didn’t stop me from shoplifting that one time because I was dared to.
@#128- I agree with most of what you said except the Kurt Connor thing. It’s kind of like if I said that turning Anakin into Darth Vader ruined him for me.
Okay, bad analogy since Vader came first, but you know what I mean. I want to see where they take the Lizard next.
The Macendale Hobgoblin possessed by Demogoblin would be a more correct comparison. It was different and made the character even more evil.
As long as he doesn’t have the hair thing they gave him in Shed, I’m fine with it.
@#126 It’s The Force, they don’t have to explain Sith!
You really don’t have a clue do you mister Wacker. I already follow the news on issues with misogyny beyond comics. The reason it bothers me in comics, is that it gives young boys the wrong idea about women, and thus endorses misogyny in teenagers at an age when they should learn better. If you basically tell these kids that women only come in three varieties, aka bitches, bimbos and wackos, then that’s the idea they get of women in general.
It’s why it matters that this kind of portrayal is fought against in comics.
As for K-box’s love of porn, the ones he endorses on his blog are well not really my thing, I prefer the male on male variety, but they are higher quality and in general respectful of women.
By the way, you once again, ignore me as a person with my own opinions and treat me as if I’m just here on kbox’s command, which just isn’t the case. The only reason I’m not on this website on a regular basis is because my interest in Spider-Man, is thanks to you, mister Quesada and Dan Slott, at an all time low, so I don’t generally visit this site, until someone gives me a reason to do so. Box didn’t tell me to come here, or to speak up, he didn’t have to. I have enough issues with ASM on my own. I’m not a puppet sent by anyone.
I’m a person who’s sick and tired of seeing her favorite hero turned into a loser. Of being told that said hero was turned into a loser, because that’d apparently make him more ‘relatable’ to the readers. Which pretty much isn’t the case. Because I don’t relate to losers. I relate to dorks, to nerds, which Peter is and should be, but not to losers. And there’s a humongous difference, which you don’t seem to realize.
As for Carly, she’s a bad excuse for a character, that much is simple. But I’m not just against her because she isn’t MJ. I loved married Peter, because it forced the male writers to write women as characters in their own right, instead of sticking them in the very limited box of love interest. But that’s beside the point. I loved Chat in Marvel Adventures: Spider-Man, I love Peter’s relationships with Gwen (whom I normally despise in the regular marvel universe, lack of personality and all that), Mary Jane and Kitty Pryde in Ultimate Spider-Man.
I loved Felicia (the real one, not the offensive fake that’s appeared since BND, but the fun one we had before), I loved Joy Mercado, Glory Grant, Betty Brant, … And the one thing all those had in common is that they got out of the bad old days of the silver age and allowed female characters to be portrayed as people, instead of as cardboard.
I can stand to see Peter in other relationships, what I can’t stand, is to see him get drunk, get stupid, get arrogant, get as unheroic as possible. What I can’t stand is to see a hero portrayed as if he’s a piece of shit, as he has been since BND started. What I can’t stand is to see this once hero, not give a damn that a woman was raped by a man wearing his face. What I can’t stand is to see this bad excuse for a hero, get people killed through his own stupidity and not learn from it.
By now, BND has assured that the only way I ever want to see Curt Conners again, is when he dies, or it’s shown that that issue of the Lizard killing Connor’s son was no more than a bad dream.
And the thing is, I’m a Pollyanna, the only reason I do still keep on looking through the book in the shop every few months, is because I want you guys to improve, I want to like Spidey again. But as long as he’s portrayed as out of character as he has been since BND started, I will not read this book, because I do not support Losers.
125- I totally supported any move on Marvel’s behave to counteract such developments, like PUBLISHING MARVEL ADVENTURES TITLES…oh, wait….
122- The porn industry is more regulated in that regard these days but it still as a long way to go when it comes to the personal safety of it’s participants.
123- I liked the kung-fu subplot too! I liked the teaching subplot in this issue too. I don’t think the students made Pete look THAT bad. It was just a funny moment. 616!Peter was never a computer whiz or business savvy. But he did have the Spider-Mobile that one time…*shudders*
Is there going to be a new permanent look for S-M’s costume? I like the multiple suits, but I hope we get a new one that sticks for some time.
i find the changes in Carlie’s looks to be distracting, but not on the level other posters stated. I actually don’t hate her, but she seems a little bland/generic as of yet.
One question is bugging the heck out of me: if or when Peter reveals his secret identity (or she finds out for herself) what’s going to happen with the Psychic Blind Spot? Is she going to remember everything? The unmasking for example. Or tha fact Pete used to be married. I can see her not knowing about that last bit, but MJ was a public media figure and her husband did publish that “Web” book didn’t he? Just asking if this is going to be taken into consideration. it wouldn’t bother me if it wasn’t, I think the story itself is more important than being a continuity nut, but I’m still very intrigued by all the ramifications of OMD/BND/OMIT.
I see Marvel’s problem: they have to entertain an andience that has outgrown the source material, but expect with each new issue to relieve the passion of their youth, something that is impossible.
The solution to make the characters more dimensional and the stories more relevant to readers in their 40’s works only to certain degree, until it turns against itself. Superheros are juvenile fiction and if well done, they’re great juvenile fiction. What’s wrong with that?
Many readers and creators don’t accept this, and therefore want adult versions of these characters (Quesada for example thinks that Dark Knight was a great piece of and made a carreer of Darkknighting the Marvel universe).
This is crazy.
I totally supported any move on Marvel’s behave to counteract such developments, like getting rid of this marriage thing.
I’m here with my pop-corn enjoying the show.
Hi, first post here!
First, let me just say that I like ASM. A lot.
But I can see some of the problems people here have with it.
I think I may be the only person in the world to be a Michelle Gonzales fan lol
It’s great that SW comes here an interact in this way with fans. It’s a lot more personal and fun (or infuriating sometimes) then the old bland, non-commited approche.
It was nice to see Pete interacting with my first comics hero, Shang Chi.
Can we have an Iron Fist training session next? Pretty please!
Way Of The Spider is a great concept, I hope it isn’t going to be forgotten.
Reading through your post again reminds of a complaint on this website a few years back that Carlie was too ugly and flat-chested for Pete. I din’t agree with that either.
While your on your misogyny kick though, I do have to point the hypocrisy in supporting such and public and avid lover of pornography as KevBox says he is on his site. Perhaps you should learn a bit about that industry he’s supporting before targetting Spider-Man comics. In my mind, the lives of real people matter a little bit more. Your mileage may vary.
SW
Lore, I know you’re sent over by KevBox, so you can take this back to him. Quote me if you want.
Anwyay, sorry you don’t like the book. Though you’ll probably dismiss them, Spidey’s female audience is large and growing, but we could always do better.
While I imagine that we share some core beliefs about the treatment of women in the world, you simply know nothing aboout me and your projections expose that. It’s a nasty thing to do to someone (though it’s clear from your postings with KevBox we have different standards).
To try and argue your points in reference to Spider-Man comics I edit does a severe disservice to actual suffering and misogyny in the world. You could aim higher instead of aiming conveniently. (I know you won’t, but you could. ) Regardless, I don’t live in as much fear as you and your group seem to think. I’d suggest trying to spend a day happy, instead of lashing out indiscriminately at strangers, but I’m weird like that.
Anyway for those of you who have chored through this, let’s try and get something good out of this. Here’s a link to an organization that deals with actual dangers to women in the world: http://www.ikwro.org.uk/
The outrargeousness they combat is no “Carlie’s hair is colored slightly lighter a year ago!!!”, but I think they do important work in the Middle East.
SW
Mister Wacker, it’s exactly this kind of behavior that makes you a bully. I just call it as I see it. You haven’t listened to a single word I said, instead you go on the attack and try to ridicule me. As a woman, and a former reader of Spider-man, I can tell you that I’ve been repeatedly offended by ASM since BND started. To the point that I can barely even bring myself to open the book to read it in the shop. The thought of wasting my money on it, is just … too ridiculous to imagine.
And the worst part is that you don’t even get what you’re doing wrong. I don’t need Box to tell me what to feel about you or ASM. I only started reading his blog, because seeing the lowering sales rates for ASM since BND is about the only thing connected to ASM these days that still makes me happy. And for a comic that got me through years and years of being bullied, that’s saying a lot.
I used to identify with Peter Parker, the guy currently pretending to be him in ASM on the other hand is an embarrassment to the name.
If people used to ask me to give the name of a woman friendly title at Marvel, I’d name ASM, because of the strong female characters who were there for more than just background scenery. The bits of cardboard currently pretending to be female chars in ASM are insulting and offensive.
And when you say that Carlie, who is supposed to be the main female character in the book these days, doesn’t need to have a set look, then you’re basically saying that women are interchangeable. That we shouldn’t care about women in the title, because hey, all they are there for is page filler and a chance for the artist to draw boobs.
Not that these kind of thoughts from you are new, as the title has shown by refusing to let aunt May be a well rounded character again, instead of the stereotypical old biddy that she’s been turned into, since she’s no longer allowed to know about Peter’s secret identity. Even though Peter knows that the worst thing he ever did to her, was to lie to her about being Spider-Man. But then this Peter is a pretender, so how can we expect him to remember what his aunt told him.
I just wish you realized that being young doesn’t equal being a loser, Peter before OMD was young, Peter since OMD is a middleaged never was loser, and the idea of Flash Thompson ever admiring this Spider-Man for anything is just incredibly hard to believe.
Totalitarian dictator? No.
Overinflated? Yes.
Anyway, I’ve heard worse aimed at me. Too bad your sensitivity is a one way street.
Hey remember earlier when we were all angry that Marvel ran ads positive about their books? We’ve come a long way.
SW
Erm, Stephen, you might want to take that plank out of your eye. You can’t really accuse someone of being ‘hate-filled’ immediately after comparing them to a totalitarian dictator.
Remarkable bit of hyperbole on your part, by the by. Your cage is really and truly rattled, it would seem.
114-I just read you dear leader’s latest hate filled screed. Box seems to be losing it a bit. I can see why he doesn’t want to say that stuff here where I might respond.
Anyway, you’re a good writer. “Steeped in misogyny” and concern about your “online reputation” made me laugh.
Keep talking among yourselves and I’m sure you could convince your cronies I should be arrested by the end of the morning. Maybe even call social services! Grahr! Rend! Bite!
I mean truly I’m truly one of the worst people on earth. We can all agree to that right?
SW
115-Not really. Those numbers are proprietary information.
You can get a good idea of trends, from the Diamond rankings though.
SW
@ Stephen Wacker
“No book is selling as well it was a few years ago…particularly during Civil War. To ignore that is to ignore a lot. Plus you have no idea of Marvel’s costs and profit.
And as Stillanerd can tell you, those Statements of Ownership aren’t what you think they are and they aren’t as reliable as you want them to be. They never have been.”
Are there any reliable numbers out there and when, where can they be found?
Mister Wacker, I understand that as one of the people responsible for the current crap pile that ASM has turned into, you might be a bit tone deaf in understanding when something is offensive, insulting and so on.
Bur seriously, take control of yourself, because the only one coming out of this looking badly, is you.
Seriously, you’re calling K-box a bully? The very idea of it is…. mockworthy.
The only one here acting as a bully, is well … you.
K-box gave you a chance to talk reasonably and answer some of your readers/Customers concerns and you ignored it. You’ve been derailing this thread since the start, you’ve been trying to use your power as an editor to (non literally) bash in the heads of anyone daring to show the slightest bit of concern about the current direction of Spider-Man.
As for the concerns about ASM, there are of course many of them, because seriously, this run of Spider-Man is worse than the clone saga, because at least back then both Ben Reilly and Peter Parker were still recognizable as Spidey. The current loser pretending to be Peter just …. isn’t even the slightest bit Spider-Man like.
You’re turning Peter Parker into a loser where he should be a heroic underdog.
As for the notion that making your readers angry is a good idea… I have been reading Spider-Man comics since I was ten years old, I’m turning 34 next month and thanks to you and mister Quesada I’ve been saving money since BND, because I haven’t bought a single issue with that pretense at Spider-Man in it, since Peter Parker was replaced by the Spider-loser currently heading his book. Do you know why, because what’s been done to the character angers me.
My biggest worry comic book wise right now is that Ultimate Spidey will be ruined as well, once they do that Ultimate reboot thing, whatever it turns up being.
And for those thinking it, no Spider-Man being ruined since BND isn’t the biggest worry in my life, it’s just that reading comics used to be something that brought joy, that made my life better and made me smile. Since BND, that light has been gone and I’ve started reading less and less comics. Going from fifteen a twenty a month to about five, only one of which is Marvel. I don’t buy comics that don’t inspire me, and as of BND Spider-Man no longer inspires me.
I used to think that once my goddaughter got old enough, I’d be the one to bring her into Marvel fandom, right now I’m happy she was too young before Spidey was ruined, cause currently there’s no chance I’ll let her come anywhere near Spider-Man. I wouldn’t want her to think that the loser currently heading the title, is in any way an appropriate rolemodel.
The book is steeped in misogyny, racism and white male privilege and I wouldn’t want any child I have any say about to be made to think that any of those things are acceptable.
Lore aka Liliaeth
PS: And for the record, I don’t know if you have any experience web wise, but you’re insulting kbox over being anonymous, not realizing that online his reputation is connected to his internet synonym. as securely as his real name would be to him in real life.
For example, I’ve been using the same tag name for myself since I came online over ten years ago, I use the same tag on every board I join, as such I’m sure that as few people that would know of me, most of them would know me as Liliaeth, before they knew me as Lore. Why, because they’re unlikely to ever meet me in real life. So whatever little reputation I might have gotten is hooked more to that tag name than to my real name.
When you’re online, your tag name is Steve Wacker, for as far as people know, it might as well be a fake name, but it would still stand for you, even if you did call yourself something else, long as you used it long enough.
Calling people anonymous bullies only counts when they actually do post anonymous and don’t link their name to their blog and other places they’ve built their online reputation at.
Why are my Boss Hogg links awaiting moderation?
I haven’t insulted customers (that terms a bit dismissive our readers, but whatever). I know my audience…and the guys here… pretty well. You just don’t want to be challenged on the nonsense. Understandable.
You didn’t need to say any of it…the question is what do you believe?
SW
I didn’t say any of that! I didn’t even say your doing a bad job at marvel. I don’t know who you are! I just said that what you are doing right now is Insane. you need to calm down and stop insulting customers.
It’s the just the worst isn’t it? It’s almost like you’re faking some pretend outrage and making up a premise. How can a “racist, misogynist, sexist” like myself even get away with it?
Anyway, one day I won’t be editing Spidey, and the world won’t feel like such a cold place. So maybe you can hold out!
(You can freely take all this back to KevBox. I know some of you are working under orders to use this site as some proxy battleground since he’s become embarrassed about his behavior. Maybe you’ll get printed! Good luck!)
SW
I have said no insults to you other than I am simply shocked that someone who actually works at Marvel and is supposed to be trying to show the company in a positive light to its customers has continued in some silly argument for weeks. When was it good form to respond to any of this nonsense? how does this help you sell spiderman comics? I didn’t even know your name until this started and can’t believe that your just on this message board yelling at fans. its such bad taste, how do you think this is proper behavior for a marvel employee?
And now, let us bask in the majesty that is… BOSS HOGG!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa3YonYvjN4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKeTb0nTNlM&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsxEA_zxp7E&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJpT_kQwkq4&NR=1
@#103
Bite yer tongue, boy… I LOVED Sorrell Booke….
Slotts more Enos. Ellie is Roscoe.
SW
@103 – hey Wacker, if you’re Boss Hogg then I guess Slott’s Rosco P. Coltrane.
Just out of curiosity, is Marvel hiring?
I only ask because, well, times are tough. And scouring the internet looking for people who don’t play nice with me, while not a terribly fulfilling job, at least doesn’t require heavy lifting. Do you get a separate commission for all the PR work? Finally, to whom should I address my resume, Mickey or Minnie?
Alright, alright. I went too far.
It’s sunny here for the first time in months, and I’m going out and enjoying it. I suggest everyone decompress and do the same. It’s a comic book, people. Granted, it stars a beloved character. But it’s a comic book, nevertheless. Sub-par stories existed in the past and great arcs emereged, regardless. Parts of the world are flooding. Parts are burning to the ground. Save yourself the aneurysm, and be grateful your biggest problem is how Spider-Man is protrayed.
Well argued.
Where am I on a scale of 1-to-Hitler?
I say I’m probably around Boss Hogg, but your mileage may vary.
Odd that you can toss around the ‘online threats’ as if they actually happened, Stephen, when we all know you can’t provide a single link to prove that claim.
And, to be frank, you are and have been sexist, racist and slightly homophobic. You make comics with these things in them. We read them, because we want good comics, and it is THESE things – the racist, sexist and homophobic things – that get thrown at us. We then write comments about them.
This form of blank sentence seems to be the only language you understand, so I hope that processed. You are the one in the wrong here, Stephen, and no amount of faux-sarcastic condescension is going to change that.
I responded initially because there were inaccurate suppositions about an ad that ran in the book. i assume–even though it’s me and I’m the worst!–that its still okay to point stuff like that out. Discussion is a two-way street/
But to the many frustrations in me teasing Kev-Box, if anyone around here would ever call him out on his borderline antics and accusations, I probably wouldn’t have since it’s gone on for years with out me saying anything. As it is people on your site seem to be too scared or frustrated about him to do much…which is understandable. I mean who needs this crusade loving, hilariously perverted deviant making online threats about them?
But I like this place and his tone deafness and lack of decent behavior (his latest “cause-du-jerk” is that I’m apparently a sexist, homophobic racist!) and inability to parse information isn’t helping anyone. It’s why he’s been kicked off just about every comic website except this one.
In the end, regardless of how many of you wish it weren’t true, It’s okay to stand up to hate-filled liars… even if you do work for a comic company.
SW