Avi Arad reveals facts about the reboot…(?!)

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1. I liked Spidey 3 too. And LOL Avi Arad’s plan to toss Venom in instead of Vulture did work. That movie made skillions of dollars worldwide. Little kids don’t give a crap about Vulture sorry.

   See any little kids in Vulture Hollyween costumes? I sure haven’t.

   Venom was in the ’90s animated series, so kids and people who don’t read comics know who he is. Vulture was on the show but they went with the younger version, and not the older version Raimi wanted to ram down are throats twice.

   Raimi was just wrong about that one. Sandman + Venom = SPECIAL EFFECTS and $$$. Vulture sure, you need special effects to get the flying off like they did for the goblins in the flicks but it’s not as noticable as sand and ooze. Kids like purty effects.

2. I actually liked Spiderman 3. And so did many of the people who saw it with me. People need to stop assuming their opinion about the movie is fact.

3. Was spider-man 3 really ‘abysmal’? It wasn’t the best, but come on, it was o.k.

4. I love that superherohype.com has focused on one quote, without giving any attention at all to where Avi Arad DOES say this is a reboot. I will need to find the exact quote, but he does say something like, “We’re more comfortable calling this a reboot now.”

   The point of his statement is that you are going to see Spider-Man stories told that you didn’t see before, and they’re going back to earlier in the mythology’s continuity in order to tell those stories. It’s not “Untold Tales of Spider-Man Movies”, it’s story opportunities that got passed over because of the previous movies’ narrative structure.

   If I could slap the guy who wrote that superherohype article, I would.

5. I agree that commenters piling on no matter what gets a little tiresome. Unfortunately, Marvel employees’ on-line attitudes & behavior toward customers, combined with its current “House of Frat” ethos, has fostered a sour attitude.

6. First of all, I must tip my hat my hat off to you for replying so quickly, as I honestly didn’t expect to recieve anything back from you. I such probably admit that my main problem with having such a biased opinion was that we have yet to see a single trailer, script and the like, just some still images of the outfit and cast, which I found to be unfair sources when judging a movie. It may indeed turn out to be a corporate piece of crap but I think it’s hard to judge a movie when little about it has been released.

   But, that isn’t to say I can’t see your side of the arguement, especially when it comes to the essence of Peter Parker. Despite what the editors at MARVEL believe, he is not the same lovable relatable character he used to be and, although I started picking up Dan Slott’s run to give him a chance, I’ve actually considered dropping it after #657 is released because I feel as though, for the price i’m paying, nothing has stood out to me. When Batgirl, a character of whom I have little investment in, has given more entertainment in one issue than Dan Slott has in eight suggests just how bad the series is right now.

   I also have no problem with you having on an opinion on the project, as dishonesty is not something a journalist should be delivering. My problem was that these came off as biased opinions on the possibilties, rather than constructive criticism about them. However, even I admit that I have been biased in the past so it would be hypocritical of me to make suggestions about you just because I may have seen things that did not take place. In fact, your honesty in your reply just shows how much you care about how the character has been treated and, while he’s a personal inspiration, I’m not sure if I could consistently invest in him so much.

   Thank you for apologizing but I believe that I should say sorry to you as well, for I made a judgement based upon what I thought to be fanboy rage, than than just a dismal look at what the character has become. While I have no problem with anyone being open about they feel towards the character, all I ask for is a little less negativity towards the movie. However, once a trailer is released, then feel free to be as angry as you please! So thanks again for replying and to be honest, you seem like to be a decent guy so if you have any other problems with my reply, feel free to add me over Skype (same username as on here) and I’d love to have a discussion about the titles and so forth. Like I said before, I have respect for you guys and I’d hate to lose it over over this!

7. Firstly I was not showcasing personal hatred. I don’t hate the project. However, I admit that when I read this I, like so many, having seen such dismal interpretations, as well as ridiculous executive decisions such as One More Day and the cancellation of Spectacular Spider-Man, gave a negative reaction. Does it sound biased? I admit, yes. I guess deep down I want what everyone in the community wants: the essence of the character we’ve all grown up with captured on film, and the abysmal third movie forgotten. I apologize Beck if my article put you off. But as a journalist I cannot be dishonest. However I admit I could show more objectivity in my pieces.

8. Honestly guys? Overreacting to a statement given is one thing but this? Over the past few months that I’ve frequented these boards, I’ve gained a lot of respect for the community because, when it comes to everything post-BND, you’re all willing to discuss the pluses and problems with issues without being biased towards writers, editors, etc and when someone from the industry does sign up, you don’t worship them like other certain websites, you just treat them like you would anyone else. However, when it comes to the majority of articles discussing info about the reboot, all I’ve seen this site spew is venom.

   Now, I’m not suggesting that you aren’t allowed to have a critical opinion on it, as there are many genuine reasons to why you may dislike it from day one; we’ll never receive a Spider-Man 4, it can easily be seen as a cheap cash in order for Sony to keep on holding the movie license, Andrew is 10 older than the role requires and the costume, while not being all that terrible in my opinion (What if they used the Spider-Man Unlimited outfit? Would you have been happy then?), comes off as Ben Reilly-ish as opposed to Peter Parker-ish.

   This entry however, goes beyond personal criticism and just outright states one interpretation of the quote without even considering what certain words in his statement even mean! Comeback generally suggests ‘a figure in culture returning after a period of decline’ and that could be easily be interpreted as ‘it’s not the old Spidey but a NEW Spidey you’ll be seeing!’ He could also be discussing the possibility that these are new stories that would either have not worked in the old community or ones they had not been able to showcase. Instead, this just comes off as hating something about this movie just because… it exists. At least they’re trying to do something different, it’s not they’re aiming for ‘Batman and Robin’ quality here folks! And hey, even you guys have got to admit; it could be pretty cool to see a real actor web slinging across the city instead of some CGI construct!

   As I stated before, I really have gained a great respect for this community but when it comes to writing articles about the movie, could you at least stop being so opinionated? It’s fine in a review where that’s the entire point but these articles are supposed to inform, not showcase one persons hatred. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t have a voice when writing but when it comes to professional journalism, no matter how much you may disagree with the content in question, you can’t be this biased and taken seriously at the same time. I hate to agree with Dan Slott about this website but if this spreads to other articles, then it will just come off as the site hating something because it’s different. Not the kind of the thing you really want people to be able to prove.

9. Avi Arad is a typical Hollywood douchebag.

10. I agree with youstilltalking?.
    That said, it still doesn’t look all that great, but I can go to this movie not expecting it to be better than the spidey we saw in 1-3 and still enjoy it.

    They ended the tobey spidey storyline. I’m bummed out about that, I think they could have continued it and it would be better than this, but oh well. This is better than no spidey.

11. Hulk say, “No reboot!”

12. Avi Arad doesn’t know what he’s talking about, just leave it at that. It does NOT work already given all that we know from this movie.

13. Since when has “This movie is going to tell stories that you didn’t see in movies 1, 2 and 3.” translate to “this movie is not a reboot”?

    He’s doesn’t AT ALL suggest this movie is LITERALLY telling stories from inbetween the first three movies, he’s just saying these are stories we haven’t yet seen.

14. can’t leave off the “/sarcasm” tag, wheatcakes

    this doesn’t sound too great, but I’m sure he’s just kind of speaking out of his ass, trying to make some fans feel better about continuity in the movie world. He’s just stirring up more problems then there should be with that comment.

15. @Wheatcakes: “Are you kidding me? This things off the charts!”
    -Professor Frink (referencing his sarcasm detector)

16. I hate that every article about this quote talks about the films reboot status even though the word reboot isn’t used at all in the quote.

    As far as I can tell from the quote, Ard is simply suggesting that this film won’t be retelling the same stories as the Rami trilogy.

17. Please note the above comment is chock full of sarcasm.

18. Oh no! This movie is going to suck! I hate it so much already! Screw you Marvel!

19. Wow. This is yet another reason for me not to spend my money on a ticket to see this movie. I don’t imagine this news will sit well, or make any sense, to those who DO want to see “The Amazing Spider-Man”.

    P.S. If this is a “what happened in-between the movies” Spider-Man movie, why didn’t they try to get Sam Raimi to agree to do THAT instead of walk away from the train wreck that would’ve been “Spider-Man 4”?