Amazing Spider-Man writer Dan Slott recently told a poster at the Comic Book Resources Spider-Man forum to go F-themselves. A poster by the name of lejayjay had a snarky comment about Slott saying
It is jus a paycheck for Slott anyway. He’s not a real fan.
Slott then replied with this comment.
As a guy who turned down a side job this year for a paycheck that would’ve been over a third of his yearly income– BECAUSE it would’ve meant cutting back on his not-so-lucrative comic book writing career– and get in the way of working on his Spider-Man dream job…
…and the guy who slept less than 12 hours over the course of 4 days this week working on a script while he was sick… a guy who finally had to be ORDERED off it by his editor to go see a doctor… and is still in a good deal of pain today…
…this is the first time I think I’ve ever said this to somebody over a comic book message board:
Go fuck yourself.
Seriously.
Go. Fuck. Yourself.
Now I post this not to bring up the Slott/ Crawlspace disagreement again, but it opens a good point of discussion.
Should the pro’s be held to a different standard when it comes to online behavior?
Should they bite their tongues?
Are they risking future sales to an already small audience, when they tell a potential or current customer to go f-themselves?
I’d like your thoughts in the comment section or on this thread on our message board. Remember no personal attacks, keep it civil. Refresh yourselves on the rules before you post.
CBR has since deleted the post however Google was able to take a cache of it before it was deleted. Here’s the link.
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What is the previous highest number of comments any topic has received before this one? Anyone? Bueller?
Wait, SlashDot told someone to go eff themselves?
Oh oh wait, DanSlott. Sorry.
Meh, it seemed funnier in my head. As you were.
Ish 466- Double sized!
If Wacker told us to eff off we’d get another 500 comments.
Wacker I give you permission to tell me to eff off. Ask anyone, I have it coming.
@Flying Tiger – “Wacker’s trolling hard whilst still playing the victim saint for the Cyborg Beatdown Revolution. Slott meanwhile is on Twitter being derivative.”
There was some trolling but mostly it was Wacker laying all his cards out on the table while trying to talk about anything other than the horrible hand he just had to fold on. I’ll regret this later but in his defense there wasn’t much he could really say here out in the open regarding his writer’s attitude. They’re way too early into the next failed ASM relaunch for him to be disagreeing with Slott’s actions publicly.
AMFam15-Yes, Wacker pissed in a cup.He’s the real deal. His IP is from NYC .
Wacker-Two Bit told you to leave, he got a warning. NO one is telling you to leave. I think they’re just pissed you aren’t saying more harsh things about Slott’s quote.
457 said: “Also oh noes I been menshunned by internets police! Andrew iz aftah me! oh noes. l a m e”
Um… Flying Tiger are you okay? Did you have a seizure while you were typing? Let us know that you’re not in need of any immediate medical assistance, please.
Don’t you know? I’m the real Jack Bauer!
Brad, since we’ve heard from a Stan Lee impersonator, can you confirm that this is the REAL Stephen Wacker? Or just some troll starting trouble for both us AND Marvel?
Because at this point, I’m actually hoping for the latter!
It would explain a LOT!
Don’t look at me, I’m waaaaay over in Ontario!
Dang we’re in the MJ IS DEAD era.
Wacker….was that a zen reply?
Where/how does “world ending” come into the discussion?
Why would I think I can control people thousands
of miles away (and I don’t) when I can barely
(and usually not) control my CATS? But they’re SO darn cute…
Still…thank you for muddifying the fuzzification.
Tricorp. As just reused by Wacker in Big (ironic) Time…
Amazing Spider-Man 450 – horrible.
Also oh noes I been menshunned by internets police! Andrew iz aftah me! oh noes. l a m e
Wacker’s trolling hard whilst still playing the victim saint for the Cyborg Beatdown Revolution. Slott meanwhile is on Twitter being derivative.
And on to Issue 666- which will be the issue where it’s Mephisto’s Daughter and Spider-Girl versus Mephisto for the soul of Aunt May! Or something.
Since several of you are apparently asking for me to leave over on your board, I’ll take off again before the authorities have to step in. Nice to stop by, though. Good luck with the joint.
And for the love of mike, don’t give into easy cynicism. It’s the cheapest, most facile emotion you can muster. If you’re so mad at comics, then go out and make some good ones.
(Brad, I like plain vanilla. Quick before it melts! Address is in the book! Seriously though, this was worth a gift certificate at least.)
(George, you haven’t mentioned Disney in a couple hours. Are you okay?)
(Andrew, I did stop reading during that run, but it was mostly because Macchio told me to go F myself. And as a fan…I did what i was told.)
Later
SW
Dammit. Thanks guys, we’re now in the middle of the terrible Howard Mackie/John Byrne relaunch.
Hey Wacker, even you can admit that was a pretty bad stretch, right? I mean, Mattie Franklin, Doctor Octopus without pants, Chapter One and Tricorp, amirite???
@Bertone: Unless Stan Lee moved to the British Columbia province of Canada without telling anybody, I’m going to say no on that one.
EDIT: Ninja’d by Brad. I really need a faster connection. 😛
Is Norman Osborn back yet? I think he is.
Wait, we’re in the Mackie Reboot now, aren’t we?
Perhaps everyone should just do a Uwe Boll and just duke it out in the ring! Old-timey style with handlebar mustaches! All proceeds to charity!
Well..I’ve been fooled by an impersonator. Darn…
447, what in the world has happened? This is nuts!!!!!!!!!
Wacker- What flavor?
http://www.teddrewes.com/Drewes.asp
@ Bertone…sure sounds like Stan.
@ Steve: Hey fellow Cardinal fan. No answer to post #421?
Aren’t we supposed to be renumbered by now?
LOL fail
Also fail that we’re in the reboot era.
Unless Stan Lee moved to Canada, ignore that previous post. However, that was a pretty good impression.
@Betrone…the date for the event is right…and it SOUNDS like him…
@441….
Ironic that that’s the last pre-reboot issue….unless somebody beats me to the punch I’m volume 2 number 1…
IP check to see if that’s the real Stan? I’m hesistant.
Stan…great to have you with us! Congrats on the star!
…my day has just been made
You win, Jack Bauer…this time!
doot DOOT doot DOOT
Greetings my brave Brigadiers! Just a friendly reminder from your beloved Generalissimo to pick up Starborn #1!!!!
I would also be remiss if I didn’t mention the unveiling of my star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on January 4, 2011. And even luckier for me, the fourth has always been my favorite day in January!!
EXCELSIOR!!!!!!!!
If you have a better track record, Steve, why do you aviod the issue?
The leader of CANADA sang and played keyboards
and paid tribute to John Lennon at his Party’s Christmas bash!!
Let’s see Obama do that!!
Forget losing America, find Canada!! Boo yah!
Just wanted to get in on the record number of posts. Lets get to 500.
Herb – you are imagining a bunch of things that aren’t happening –and that i’m not doing– to make this larger point you have about how you think I should behave. I know it gets you some responses elsewhere on the message board, but part of living a zen life is realizing you can’t control everyone. I don’t know you and don’t feel beholden to you and your arbitrary beliefs on when i should respond to things or how I should spend my time. I have me for that and I have a better track record than you with my life.
Considering my world isn’t ending, is it possible you’re wrong?
SW
A strong knowledge of the character *
Hahaha.
VenomGenius?
Well i Do have a lot of knowledge of the character…
Good advice can come from anywhere, but when there’s opposing views, I probably won’t follow the stranger who goes by a code name that suggests he or she is a maniac.
Maybe consider a change to VenomGenius?
After Civil War #2 and all the stuff that was going on in Spider-man at the time I seriously thought they just didn’t care. That didn’t even make good fan fiction in my opinoin. If you do 5 different gimmicks straight almost month by month I think it was and you do the biggest thing ever even though all the EIC seemed to want is Peter single. I honestly thought they just didnt’ care and it ruined the book. Because what can you do now? Dan Slott comes around and I think he cares but he can’t do anything adn this is his attitude and I think that’s what he is trying to make Peter parker. I don’t think it’s anyworse than idiot Peter betraying his friends and altering the universe for his gain.
But Olivier doing henry v for free would be quite nice! (Actually Pacino doing Merchant for free would be even better…but i digress)
@413:
Depends on the caliber…
Disagreement, civilly stated, is fine.
But honestly, like it or not, *you* should set
higher standards for yourself as a representative
of marvel – like it or not.
Nor should Dan be making cracks about
doing someone’s mom….ugh, utter lack of class.
Certainly, I hope I haven’t come too close to
any lines in my posts; I DO keep in mind that
I’m talking to *real* people with *real* feelings…
Come on, man – you ARE better than this.
“Nothing is as bad as you think’ are you saying that as a general philosophy, or in reagrds ton this specific comic situation?
And I’m not sure what my name has to do with anything lol. advice can be taken from any source if it makes good points and is a well thought out argument imo
I mean I want my writers only typing comics for me.
And just because you seem very literal…I don’t really enforce this. It’s just my wish. You never say Olivier running around doing Henry V for free!
Mr. Wacker, where did I call you a anti-fan?
@424
First we need to renumber until 500.
@Steve…when you said “When we get back tot his story there will probably be more to tell.”….does this mean there are more Stacy twin stories coming?
Mark–it sounds like we have different suspicions.
“My issue is more that I hate any writer typing stuff that isn’t for money”
Could you clarify what this means? Is this a writer putting their work out for free when they have the opporutnity to get paid instead? because that wouldn’t make sense.
I wonder if by comment #545, Mephisto will come in and offer to wipe away all the previous posts, and make everyone forget that Mr. Slott ever even said the “F” word?
Sure, it’ll wipe out all of the past 24 hours of continuity…But who needs it? Continuity’s overrated anyway, right?
Jack…I suspect there’s nothing you would acknowledge as such since we’re so bad and anti-fans, so don’t worry about it.
Venom-You can handle things the way you see fit, but I have a hard time taking advice from someone named Venomaniac. I don’t know anything about you, so I’m probably more apt to follow my instincts. Nothing is as bad as you think.
Bertone – To part of the world it’s a not so uncommon name. To those that would care its possibly another evil Norman Osborn ploy. When we get back tot his story there will probably be more to tell.
Nutz, it was 421, which is really the Dragonfly issue…
Let’s see, what has not been said so far? We have the great Twain quote about wrestling with pigs. Good. We have some good ol’ fashioned what is good for the goose is good for the gander. OK. We have questions about professionalism. Got it. What’s left? I know…
If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
@ Steve: Staying in NY getting to ya? You sound like a Cubs fan defending something that is not really worth defending. BTW: Do you like the Berkman pickup for LF? Weird, not sure if I do. Go Cardinals!
ASM #416…Oh, wait, HEROES FAREWELL, how ironic…
@345: “my suspicion is that if this epithet were aimed the other way, most of you’d have no problem…”
My suspicion is that most of you/us/whatever would think that the guy was way out of line, and ignored him as a ranter and an idiot. In case you haven’t noticed, most of us are agreeing with Slott’s outrage, just not the way he handled it.
Personally, I would have mentioned being mad enough to want to post G-F-Y, and then list the reasons for being that angry (hard work despite being ill, other job opportunities, etc.). That is the easy and hypothetical way of saying it, without actually saying it. Or better yet, realize that the original poster was not important enough to get upset about (unless he was an editor, important critic, or a close friend).