Amazing Spider-Man writer Dan Slott recently told a poster at the Comic Book Resources Spider-Man forum to go F-themselves. A poster by the name of lejayjay had a snarky comment about Slott saying
It is jus a paycheck for Slott anyway. He’s not a real fan.
Slott then replied with this comment.
As a guy who turned down a side job this year for a paycheck that would’ve been over a third of his yearly income– BECAUSE it would’ve meant cutting back on his not-so-lucrative comic book writing career– and get in the way of working on his Spider-Man dream job…
…and the guy who slept less than 12 hours over the course of 4 days this week working on a script while he was sick… a guy who finally had to be ORDERED off it by his editor to go see a doctor… and is still in a good deal of pain today…
…this is the first time I think I’ve ever said this to somebody over a comic book message board:
Go fuck yourself.
Seriously.
Go. Fuck. Yourself.
Now I post this not to bring up the Slott/ Crawlspace disagreement again, but it opens a good point of discussion.
Should the pro’s be held to a different standard when it comes to online behavior?
Should they bite their tongues?
Are they risking future sales to an already small audience, when they tell a potential or current customer to go f-themselves?
I’d like your thoughts in the comment section or on this thread on our message board. Remember no personal attacks, keep it civil. Refresh yourselves on the rules before you post.
CBR has since deleted the post however Google was able to take a cache of it before it was deleted. Here’s the link.
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The line is arbitrary and changes from person to person. I’ll know where it is for me when I see it. There is no universal answer.
For example, I wouldn’t say what Slott did to a guy on a message board (I tend to not get so worked up about any of this as much as the 300 people above here do)…but that doesn’t mean I think it was wrong.
My issue is more that I hate any writer typing stuff that isn’t for money.
re 413:
I feel that the fans have been tryijng to debate an issue in a serious manner, and the more saracstic attitude you and Mr. Slott take turn people off and can get them a little annoyed after a while. I Do see your side of it, but i feel that the saracasm is not the best way to handle the situation. Are both sides throwing unneccesary insults? YES. should BOTh sides stop? Yes. We need to get back to the idea of treating the creators with respect and only critiquing the work. AHowever, the creators have to honor that by respecting the fanbase as well
Where are people taking pot shots at you, Steve?
By the time we get to the 500’s there will be enough material for an interview…
@Steve,
I noticed in AMERICAN SON that Harry and Norah went public with Norman being the father of Gabrial Stacy. Since they used his last name, does this mean Gwen was outed to the public as the mother as well?
AmFan…you could maybe lighten up a bit. I was gently teasing you for getting the quote wrong (which most people do). I’m sure you love Spidey considering you are the comic he debuted in.
And Mr. Wacker- I AM curious… do you think there is a certain line a professional should not cross when dealing with the fanbase? and if so, what is it?
But the shots at Dan and me are okay?
BDog took the last cashew!?!?!?
… I’m not speaking to him for a week.
@392 – “Not sure who you are quoting. Who said you weren’t real fans?”
I was quoting you, actually…WAAAY back in comment #258, you said:
“@AmFan 15
You got the responsibility quote wrong. You aren’t really a fan, are you?
SW”
Of course, you’re pretty good at forgetting little things like history and continuity, so I completely understand…It’s not like it’s your job to keep up with these things!
One annoying thing about Canada…?
Hey, it’s not like we can HELP it that we’re so dang cool…
The remarks about verym…er, berryman are getting
to be just a bit much.
Re: 403
I’m cool with the radio play if you agree to participate as well
Okay…so there is ONE annoying thing about Canada.
Anyway, Back to Bertone…
No huge plans for BugleGirl as that’s more of a background thing. Not forgotten though. Dan just had a great idea for a Betty story last night.
And i will not read my part as my rate is Equity scale. George Berryman can read my part (assuming he can read!!)
SW
Aw dang…
#400 woohoo!
I wonder if this is gonna get to 500….
You’ve lost America!!
“herbiepopnecker” is a CANUCK!
S’all right, just check the lost-and-found.
I’ll do it if you read for the part of yourself Wacker.
While I have your attention, will Bugle Girl be addressed at all in Slott’s run or is she redundant now because the Daily Bugle is back?
By the way, to whoever is in charge…
Don’t NOT do the radio play thing just because it’s me suggesting it. Pretend it was Berryman who said it.
Wacker just answer one simple question… why do you hate America so much?
😉
Still sad my audience question wasn’t answered… it was something I am genuinely curious about
HA! Bertone, you are brilliant!! Let’s form a separate club here.
You guys should do a podcast where you read these 400 responses like a radio play.
@396
Maybe the missing Skrull is Harry from 647? His purpose was to mate with Mia for a human/Skrull hybrid baby? Sell it as a mini-series?
Fred, I thought you guys were nice and sweet and all of us were mean?
At the very least, you’ll be invited to join one of the clubs here for speaking out against my evil ineptitude.
Mr. Berryman, no one’s as smart as you think you are, but you are the true hero of your own story. Good for you for getting as far as you have in life. Be well.
Bertone, we screwed that up after making a late change in the story. I realized it too late though. Sorry if it threw ya. I was always thrown by the missing Skrull in FF #2, so I empathize. It’s why I hate looking through printed books. They all have mistakes somewhere.
And finally, If I lose “herbiepopnecker”, I lose America!
We’re in the CLONE SAGA folks!
“Unfortunately you don’t get to decide how I spend my time.”
Judging by the amount of time you spend here making yourself and Marvel look bad, i don’t think anybody really cares what you do with your time.
@387:
Your Edgar Bergen is showing!
And most of your Mortimer Snerd…
Not sure who you are quoting. Who said you weren’t real fans? You just got the responsibility quote wrong is all. You;re feeling upset about POVs that you’re making up. No one you hate on Spidey is as evil as you think.
Unfortunately you don’t get to decide how I spend my time. Maybe one day.
Wow.
I find myself losing respect ever so steadily for Wacker.
But then: “Not to reply is to reply”, so….
Berryman, however, I feel more and more is veryman.
.
Hey Steve while I have ya..quick question..?
Harry was with Mia while Peter kissed Carlie in ASM 647…but earlier in the book during the first story it showed Harry leaving the party before the Peter/Carlie kiss. So my question…who was impersonating Harry?
Told you Don!
And Crawl Spacers can and do routinely disagree with me. The difference between you and them is that they’re willing to say they do or don’t agree with me or comments I’ve made, whereas you’re unwilling to answer Don’s simple question regarding Dan’s behavior.
Also – when they disagree with me I certainly don’t tell them to go f-ck themselves. I’ll leave that to the Mouse House of Ideas.
@345 – “However I don’t think good stories come out of trying to set your clock by whatever a group of mostly anonymous people will pretend to be up in arms about on any given day.”
You’re absolutely right, Mr. Wacker…good stories DON’T come out of hanging out at message boards, worrying about what others think of your product. They come from hard work, creative thinking, and cooperating with associates in the field.
Which begs the question AGAIN: Why are you and Mr. Slott spending so much of your time bickering with us, who are quite OBVIOUSLY “not real fans”, and not putting your all into creating great stories?
If you did so, I guarantee you wouldn’t have HALF as many complaints coming from the boards in the first place!
Your McCarthy is showing!
So you won’t give an honest answer because…that’s just what they’re expecting?
Donovan, I’m fine with the predictably angry people here being disappointed that I won’t jump for their ” do you still hit your wife” questions.
Mr. Berryman on the other hand just likes to peacock for the rest of ya…does he speak for everyone? I assume so since no one has said otherwise…which seems to be the litmus test here.
ugh. now we are in the jury story…
Andrew, I will join your crusade if it means Ben Reilly returning in his post Scarlet Spider Amazing Spider-Man outfit! 382 Spidey, the Hulk, and Mark Bagley goodness!
Good question, Don. Impending sarcastic dodge from Wacker in 3… 2… 1…
Mr. Wacker, at no point in this abomination have I seen you make a specific stance concerning your opinion towards Dan Slotts behavior. Are you for or against what he did, and why?
I assume you don’t really care since you’ve played Candyland with the Crawlspace for the past 36 hours, but for the sake of a lil’ ole fanboy’s heart, if you could state your opinion, people would very much appreciate it.
This is where the “Just Ignore Him” advice kicks in.
Carnage ,Doppleganger, Demogoblin… Maximum Carnage keeps on rolling!
Re 363:
Mr. Wacker, I’m a little confused about what informative comments about the business you made. You talked about how Slott was freelance, how they were some as-of-yet-unexplained extra method of sales used, and how listening to message board poster is not (in your opinion) the best way for stories. All of which shed light on your mindset towards the situation and how you view your editorial duties, but not the little details of the business as a whole or more about how the overall business operates (unless I misinterpreted your statement again)
Ugh
Cardiac, Styx and Stone. Still we have 400 to look forward to.
Ripped up comics? Or pages removed, folded neatly and returned as proof of a printing error?
Meanwhile…..
Should Slott have made “The Suggestion”?
I say no one ever should.
Yes, I know they WILL…!!
“The suggestion” made by a writing pro – talk
about a “way with words”….
Peter would whine on his facebook about his cheapskate Uncle giving him a friggin’ microscope for his birthday.
Fred has spoken!
CrazyChriss–I’ve been on the podcast, plugged the blog and and have helped make this thread more fun than sitting through the usual suspects whinging about the sun coming up. That’s pretty great and supportive of me actually.
People on this site loudly supported a guy who sent me ripped up comics, so I’m not too worried about appearing too “adversarial”. The die was already cast and that’s fine.
This place (and most boards if I’m being honest) is like a less-benevolent Onion when it comes to comic news and insight.
I like you though.
“CrazyChris and others…try not reading my (or any) posts in the angry tone you are projecting onto it.”
No one is projecting anything, you’re making yourself look bad all on your own.
If Peter Parker had the internet who knows what weird stuff he would have put up.