Which Parker is getting married?

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1. ZArius:” Except they didnt rush into marraige, but keep it up, this argument has been done to death and you always come off on the losing side.”

   Do I? Can you cite examples where I have? IMO it was rushed, it was a marketing ploy. Last minute stuff to capitalise on a sales bonanza.

   Z:”Besides, you’ve already proven you’re willing to support genuine rushed marraiges like Jay and May, so all you have done is prove you bend in the wind to whatever Marvel tell you to read”

   Again… where have I supported this “rushed” marraige. I’ve not written any posts “supporting” May’s marraige … but feel free to spread your misinformation. Golly you’re very bitter.

   And Mac I’m right with you brother. I don’t miss the marriage or MJ in particular. It will, however, be nice to have her back for a brief spell. And you’re not in the minority on that one.

2. Obviously Mj did something to peter…or it appears that way to him. So it makes since they wouldnt have a rushed wedding…at this point i dont care though. If they put all the pieces back together the way its supposed to be “with Mj and Peter married” Than I’ll be happy…regardless of how poor the writing is…I’ll be back on full time. =)

3. I see….so they write these folks in character now? lol

   She’s already been in bed with this guy….what more proof that they are mishandling the characters do you need??

   and I think you misunderstood why I pointed out Peter acting cold towards Mj. I was saying so in reference to them getting married now. Not the past. 😉

4. But in May’s case, it’s against her character. She was engaged to Nathan far longer than she is to Jay and had to deal with his gambling issues and shadier side, she WAITED before choosing when to marry him.

   Older couples marrying quickly may have this “life’s much shorter” attitude…but it’s still a pretty stupid thing to do, especially since May is ICONIC and Uncle Ben’s memory is dependent on her valuing it…stick her with anyone else and you’re just cheapening his memory and her love for him. I don’t beleive in marrying others once your soul mate is dead, I find it morally reprehensible.

   As for Peter acting cold towards MJ in BND, their decision not to get married doesnt play a factor in it at all….he’s not going to stand up for her in front of friends because they’ll accuse her of having a hold on Peter and end up disowning her from their inner circle, Peter wouldnt really want to have her hurt like that, so he fakes disinterest. Harry’s the one that wants him to act cold about her, as he’d be pissed one of his dearest friends up and abandoned his most valued friend (we know MJ likely did it for Mephisto)

   Oh sure the “we were too young at the time Peter” excuses will be brought up for the marraige, but Marvel won’t play it as a big deal. In this faux timeline, the two ended up co-habiting and still lived the same wonderfuL life they led before Peter senselessly joined The Avengers and unmasked. The COHABITING is what Marvel want to restore, not the marraige…and any story they tell with a temporary shake-up becomes easier. Is it bulls*it? Yes, but that’s their reasoning. The botched wedding has NOTHING to do with ANY dissention Peter and MJ have now. To them, the Parker Luck got involved with the wedding and they had a surrogate marraige regardless…overcoming the odds as usual.

   The reason the wedding was removed, in addition to fuelling massive egos, wasnt to create a dramatic reason to split up based around that very same botched wedding…..it was to justify all the other times they split up without having them go through “maritial problems”, and to open the door for a “pure” marraige again down the road, which the daily strip has had for years. I can respect Marvel for wanting to clean up the maritial problems, just not how they ignored ’em. I’ll take waking up from a dream over retconning anytime.

5. Ugh…they got “Dunce” back again? I don’t hate her…but as Mj she sucks. Not all her fault, I blame the writing for making her “Gwen lite”
   My best bet is that they’ll go with Kraven and Lizard…it seems the most logical but who knows.

   anyhoo,
   They can’t rush Peter and Mj together, because they’ve already known each other for years….it’s like if you had the choice whether to marry your best girlfriend or not. You know what your getting into. However I don’t see this as the case…because Peter was cold towards her in the first issue of BND. PLUS there is a reason why they didn”t get married in the first place and decided to “live” together. I’m sure it will be pretty dumb.

   Also,
   Having two older people like May and Jameson get married quickly really isn’t weird. I know alot of older folks that do that.

6. Recent press confimation came down today: Dunst is in, there’s no Morbius…and there’s no wedding

   Marvel are idiots.

7. I think this is the invitation to Peter and MJ’s wedding that never happened, and they will show what happened on the wedding day and why the wedding was canceled.

8. Anybody think that the could hold off the re-marrige until the Spider-man movies get them hitched? Like what they did with Back in Black (symbiote appears in SM3, they put peter in his black suit but it fits the story still) Maybe there just waiting to cash in on the “new readers” again and again (“and again…until were both dead…”)

9. Jay and May had 2 months together before getting engaged: more time than May and Nate AND Pete and MJ.

10. …Except they didnt rush into marraige, but keep it up, this argument has been done to death and you always come off on the losing side.

    Besides, you’ve already proven you’re willing to support genuine rushed marraiges like Jay and May, so all you have done is prove you bend in the wind to whatever Marvel tell you to read.

    >Quick question to those that don’t miss the marriage… that includes YOU, Zarius…<

    Enigma, I greatly miss the marraige and called anyone who didnt miss it a vocal minority. However, I’m not blind to the notion Marvel really havent gotten rid of it at all. It’s very much more alive and evolved in Spider-Girl. That does not mean the marraige can’t evolve differently in 616 if it’s restored…but it’s not like Marvel are not having their cake and eating it. That’s all I meant. I agree with Joe’s motivation for OMD (the characters would never have seperated in the first place, let alone be divorced), because I’m married, and the retcon actually wiped Vol.2’s maritial problems off the record. This was done so that the 616 marraige, if ever restored or done all over again, will be completly “pure” again as opposed to the angsty quagmire it became. However, I don’t agree at all with the execution of OMD and consider BND to be the Batman and Robin of the Spider-Man franchise…if that’s any help to you.

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11. Don’t think they’ll have Pete and MJ rushing into maraige (again) anytime soon.

12. PS this is random…

    but I was about 13 when Ultimate Spider-man came out.
    The stories were much better than the mackie one’s….thats what got me into that book and NOT because he was single and younger.

    Funny thing though…once JMS started writing ASM. I immediately dropped USM. =)
    ……..than again I was pretty smart…I had a sophmore reading level when I was 12. =/

    Regardless I think I still fit their demographic. =D

13. That’s a simple one Enigma_2099

    Some people…like myself wouldn’t have minded if the marriage was erased if they at least had shown respect for the fans that loved it. I liked it, it’s where I came in and pretty much all I’m used to when it comes to Spidey’s relationships. He’s not a playboy like Ironman or Batman. He’s the everyman…and usually your average joe gets married. So shouldn’t an adult Spidey be married? I know I’m ranting here…but the main point is it just makes sense. Kids don’t really read comics anymore…if they do its probably manga and an even smaller amount read them because a family member got them into it. It’s really shameful that they blame the marriage for bad story telling.

    Seeing Spidey from a teen to adult actually drew me into the comic and kept me for many years…the saddest part is that when they started handling the marriage better than they ever had in the last 20 years…thats when they chose to completely demolish it.

    On the other hand some of us feel like we keep being cheated. Pro-marriage or not OMD was a horrible story…and they didn’t follow up on the promise that great spidey stories would be told after this huge debacle.
    BTW Remember how the solicitations said “After the heartwarming events of One More Day” at the start of Brand New Day?? Good times!

14. Quick question to those that don’t miss the marriage… that includes YOU, Zarius… if it’s such an insignificant detail that you don’t care if it’s no longer there, why did it bother you that he was married in the first place?

    And I still, for the life of me, can’t understand how THIS was better than just having a separation. And considering his motivation for the whole mess, I could give a good god D*** if he does put them back together at this point. It won’t change the fact that he screwed them up in the first place.

    Make him a “swingin” single… he ain’t got lucky yet… HELL, his DEAD aunt’s getting more action in the sack than he is right now!!! Menace got knocked up…. FREAKIN’ MENACE!!! Do you know how horrifying that image was?!?!?! But somehow, having them stay married was bad for the books…

    Some people…

15. Nice one Zarius 😉
    But I like sticking with multiple theories until I can narrow them down. If you look at the solicitations one more time…you’ll notice that not only is there a heavy emphasis on Mj and Peter. But they say something shocking will happen, most likely a change to the status quo. Your theory is an excellent one…I considered it myself, but that would kind of hurt the value of issue 600. I think it deals with past and present….and the august solicitations maybe a bit misleading. I chose to ignore the text and pay attention to what the art tells me.

    However I’d like to admit that I DID consider the possibility of her not knowing who Spidey is….although there are a few things that bother me. First and foremost…these guys lie. Like all the time. For example look how great a mystery jackpot was…everything led to Mj. Every single clue…there was only one sara clue and they did screwed all of this up in an annual. They even said The other was a great story. Remember the thank you note from Joe at the back of the last issue??

    Hey I’ll be shell shocked if they put Peter and Mj’s marriage back together….I never said they would get back together like that. But it would sure boost sales, the industry really is bombing. kids dont touch comics these days…and at this rate why wouldn’t they try to boost sales even if its a little bit?? Like it or not….they have taken a hit. I dunno…marvel is crazy these days and Quesada sure does know how to sell books!

16. NOTE: The original marriage in annual #21 took place on NY City Hall in Lower Manhatten. This invitation is at Bryant Park, which is in front of the New York Public Library…in midtown. So, if CrazyChris is right, they changed the location of the marriage and perhaps that is why it did not happen. “Bruce” was unable to drop off MJ off at the right place!

17. I know many have predicted a resolution of OMD in isssue #666. OK, that would be cool, but more ironic to fans is IF it is returned issue #616 would be just as good, because it is sooner…

18. For the last fricking time, Joe Quesada isnt a fan of the MARRAIGE, that doesnt mean he dislikes Peter and MJ as a COUPLE. There was a 2007 CBR interview where he pretty much said BND, the current status quoe, would eventually tell the story of the two overcoming the deal…there’s a four-part resolution to OMD prepared for late 2009, all the details have been ironed out.

    You won’t see the marraige return under Joe’s watch (besides, he loves Spider-Girl, and from my own perspective, that’s where the marraige ought to be if it aint going to evolve in 616), but you WILL see Peter and MJ back together.

19. I’ll pick the issue up because it’s a milestone for Spidey and for the Stan Lee story. Stupid teasing like the image above – c’mon you know that’s Jameson Sr and May’s wedding – is really insulting to fans of Spider-Man’s marriage and is making me rethink my position on buying the issue. Too bad they don’t teach tact at Marvel.

20. Zarius, how exacly is it guranteed that they’ll be back together by 2009-10? Personally I hope you’re right. My thoughts were Clone Saga=2 years, MJs death, return and seperation from Peter lasted 3 years, so logically we only have 2 1/2 more years of this BND crap. But if they get back together earlier thats even better. But I never heard Joe Q. guranteeing their reunion. I was positive he was dead set agianst it.

21. CrazyChris wrote: “My guess: both Parkers. It’ll tell the story of Aunt May’s wedding to Jameson Sr and also provide flashbacks to the almost-wedding between Peter and MJ in the revised time line.”

    Not to mention I have this sneaking suspicion that Stan Lee will write that almost-wedding between Peter and MJ flashback story, as if the situation wasn’t ironic enough already.

    Zarius wrote: “Chalk one up to false advertising folks, this is a cowardly way of drawing in fresh readers to a glorified, predictable, badly written rehash of the George Stacy death, where May and Jameson Snr vow to make Spider-Man pay, the city turns against him, THREAT OR MENACE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, YAKETTY-SMACKETY”

    I think you mean Jameson JUNIOR there, Zarius. Because I have feeling, because this will end up being a “homage” to the death of Captain Stacy, it’s going to be Jameson Sr., a.k.a. Jay Jameson, who will end up getting killed or maimed in this issue.

    BTW, you’re prediction on what could transpire in issues #601 to #603 with Peter and MJ–I have a strong feeling you’ve pretty much nailed it.

22. I called the number and there was a voice that sounded like John Lennon saying “You’re getting closer”.

23. I’ve read the solits for the three parter that focuses on MJ

    1. MJ will reenter Peter’s life by returning to it just as his love life runs dry. Rest assured, MJ is coming back for a modeling gig, not to get back with Peter, at least not yet. MJ is Peter’s best friend, it will be very much like how Rogewr Stern reintroduced her…she’s there for Peter as that best friend again, and preferring it that way (though we all know she’s always been in love with Peter)

    2. In the second part, Peter aqquires a new job, which is hinted as being one suited to a moddeling agency…this solit hints that the job might push MJ “further away”, as Peter would be exposed to MJ in revealing outfits, which would open up fresh wounds for two best friends trying to patch up a messy break-up and only now trying to reconcile platonicly.

    3. MJ will face off against The Chamelion at some point when Jameson Jnr is at risk…she’ll probably meet Spidey, and we’ll learn more about her feelings for HIM. Remember, she doesnt know who he is according to the Webheads, no matter what we’d LIKE to think, it’s their way or the highway (thank god the sales reflect the latter), when Marvel’s webheads SAY MJ doesnt know who Peter is, they MEAN it. She remembers the portions of her life with Peter, but she ALSO remembers kissing Spider-Man on about a billion occasions…she’s torn between two men, and she very likely knows that her memory was tampered with by Peter, or Peter knows but won’t spill a thing to her

    Now, whilst MJ, IN-CHARACTER, wouldnt let Peter in that she knows what he did, she wouldnt leave him for it since she’d understand his need to protect his family AND Spider-Man’s identity (from her perspective), this is about the only thing that doesnt settle well with me…there’s no getting rid of MJ unless you write her OUT-of-character…even an inch.

    Hence why MJ remembers the deal with Mephisto. Quesada, for all his faults, respects MJ’s character enough to know that if it werent for that second pact she made, she wouldnt have left Peter AT ALL. The deal, to have MJ never know true love with Peter again to save May’s life, would take the place of the original OMD, which erased the marraige as well as prevent MJ from giving Peter unconditional understanding and love.

    Whilst it’s a gurantee Peter and MJ will get back together sometime in late 2009 or early 2010, as Quesada has guranteed that the two will be reunited and MJ’s pact with Mephisto will be explained and dealt with, MJ isnt back in the saddle with Peter anytime soon following Issue 600. That doesnt, however, prevent her from being his best friend again…and let’s face it, that’s as good as the Webheads are going to allow thus far until there all fired or gone from Marvel.

    Not a fair cop of course. I’ll stick with Stan Lee revealing all of this was a dream in the newspaper strip

24. blah after this i’ll shut up.
    also on the cover for 601 the newspaper is turned facing us as if they WANT us to read it for sure. 😉

25. BTW the spidey as a monster thing comes from what steve wacker saying earlier about a new status quo coming for spidey after 600. He said he was always interested in doing it. Whatever it is.

26. This is an easy one….It’s Peter and Mj. Bryant Park is where the marriage was staged in real life in 89 (I think)
    In “you are cordially invited to the marriage of “the woman’s name goes first” until the couple are married and become Mr. and Mrs.

    It’s a flashback issue.

    This issue obviously has something to do with Peter and Mj’s relationship status. the august solicitations heavily imply this take a close look at the cover for 601. Mj has a shirt with a “Spidey head” She has a HUGE picture of Peter and her on the wall as if she’s happy and supports him but there is a newspaper on the table that has Spidey as a villian with her looking back over her shoulder with disappointment in her face. This could mean 2 things, they are together and she doesn’t approve of him going out while the world sees Spidey as a monster OR she is trying really hard to get back together with Peter and REMEMBERS their past. I’d go with the latter just because more stories could be milked out of it. Just my 2 cents. =)

    CrazyChris has an excellent theory as well. It fits within mine…but i think may and jameson are just redherrings. Than again…look how the jackpot mystery turned out. 😉

27. Let ’em rub it in…in the end, they KNOW they f*cked up. Spider-Man has outgrown them and it’s outgrown itself. If they don’t want to change it, then there doomed to just make it utterly irrelevant. Such are the pitfalls of a man designed to life a finite lifespan by his co-creator. His story is OVER. Bring in something new.

28. It feels like Marvel, or at least Joe Q. is rying to rub our face in the fact that Pete and MJ are no longer married. Pete kissing a random chick and MJ getting into bed with Bobbi Carr, or whatever his name was bad, this is just being mean. What makes it even worse is that in August Marvel isputting out an issue full of MJ posters and a collection of issues starring MJ called Spider-Man: Mary Jane. Its going to include some of the issues that defined her as well as a reprint of “Paralled Lives.” I’ll probably get it because I’ve always wanted to read Paralled lives, but this and issue 600 make me feel like Marvel is rubbing salt into a wound that won’t heal.

29. Chalk one up to false advertising folks, this is a cowardly way of drawing in fresh readers to a glorified, predictable, badly written rehash of the George Stacy death, where May and Jameson Snr vow to make Spider-Man pay, the city turns against him, THREAT OR MENACE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, YAKETTY-SMACKETY

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGGGG

    “Old-school” Spidey is a thing of the past for a reason.

    Marvel, if you aint down with progress, AH GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA: GROW UP

30. “It’s not about ego, it’s about what’s best for the character long-term”

    What’s good for the character long-term is good writing. I can safely say that I loathed JMS’s era looking back on it, and that was WITH a married Peter, thus, even if they were married with the state of adolescent quality in BND, I’d STILL wonder what they would need to do for the character long-term. Make no mistake, the best Spidey title of the last eight to seven years has been Ultimate Spider-Man for a reason…Peter is the AGE to act the way he does in it, where as you would expect him to be GROWN UP (as he USED to be) in this universe, way beyond the confines of High School and College.

    “I don’t miss MJ, and I’m sure I’m not alone”

    Yeah Mac, you and others are what we call A MINORITY….sooner or later, you’ll realize that.

    Frankly, I wonder how true that statement is…if the Webheads ever DID restore the marraige, you’d probably be the first to congratulate ’em.

    P.S: MJ, and the marraige, havent really left many of the remainig titles…except the one you “think” is the real one.

31. So what’s good for the character Macgargan is for the book to lose almost half its readership and have the remaining suffer though stories that were told much better the first time around? As for the ad, who are they trying to Kidd? We all predicted this months ago.

    And yes, this is only happen Because Joe’s ego.

32. the marrige of BILLY BATSON and SARAH JESSICA PARKER. (all you fan fic writes can thank me later :P)

    Yeah, its undoubtedly JJsr and May, but CrazyChris’s idea is pure genius.

33. I’m going for the long shot, Peter and MJ.

34. Stupid me, I meant the time period where May and M.J. know he is Spider-man.

35. You know, I do miss the marriage. I’m reading a recently released Spider-man paperback book called Requiem. The story takes place between the period of M.J. and May knowing he is Peter, but he isn’t with the Avengers yet (and May still lives at home). The book also mentions the Pasts Sins arc (*shudder*). The book is told from Peter’s point of view during his scenes, and third person for everyone elses. The story is a little odd, however the descriptions are spot on, and the marriage is presented perfectly and adds to the story well. Mary Jane and Aunt May are both used intelligently and it flows in the story. Why this couldn’t be done with the current story arcs since Brand New Day is beyond me. Anyway, Spider-man fans would do well to pick the book up, costs only 8.00 and is a robust 300+ pages.

36. It’s not about ego, it’s about what’s best for the character long-term.
    I don’t miss MJ, and I’m sure I’m not alone.

37. And Enigma 2099, you’re right. Old Joe’s got his ego on the line, and he ain’t gonna give up.

38. It’s definitely aunt may and J. sr. Which will just make all us fans just the more angry. They know we want the marriage, and now they’re going to taunt us with it? If One More Day isn’t reversed by 600, I’m boycotting the series. I know that seems harsh, but darn it, I miss the marriage.

39. I bet Marvel thinks they’re SO CLEVER with that ad! We all know who it is and does anyone really care to see this wedding with May and Jameson. Seems pretty rushed to me!

40. Both my LCS guy and myself think that this is a damn clever ad. You can’t accuse Marvel of being deceitful, as nowhere on that ad does it state that MJ and Pete will marry, they leave it up to the fans interpretation. 10 out 10.

41. The RSVP number is for the Comic Shop… I didn’t sit through the whole recording… it woulda been cool to have some type of hint or give away for those that thought to call

42. If I have the geass that Lelouch from code geass has, I would use to to take over Marvel and put a new order for the fans. and I would have Joe Quesada serve as the janitor. and have him kiss my pimp editor and chief ring. anyone who oppose me I will use my geass and say “OBEY ME WORLD” and they will be like “Yes your majesty”.

43. Don’t worry, JJJ will make a deal with Mephisto to wipe this from history anyways.

    To be followed by Hawkeye dealing with Mephisto, after he makes up with Mockingbird.
    Then the Vision and the Scarlet Witch… uhh… Mephisto will find a way to get them back together, and then wipe away the marriage.

    (Yes, I’m bitter.)

44. BECAUSE HE MUST BE YOUNG

    THEY SAID IN WIZARD THAT A MARRIED SPIDER-MAN IS LIKE A WORLD WITHOUT “ORANGE” (seriously they said that)

45. Again… why is Spider-man the only person in whole friggin’ Marvel universe who can’t be happily married?!?!?

46. I still call the parker being Peter adn the SOn with Flash ThompSON, hahhahahaha. or could be Wade WilSON.

47. An easy way to find out is to call the RSVP number on the invite.

48. Yeah, it will be May and J.J.J. Sr. I do figure M.J. will be at the wedding though.

49. They’re not gonna admit defeat… they’re too arrogant…

    Sales would have to TANK before they give us what we want.

50. My guess: both Parkers. It’ll tell the story of Aunt May’s wedding to Jameson Sr and also provide flashbacks to the almost-wedding between Peter and MJ in the revised time line.