My friends, when it comes to comics and the superhero genre specifically I am a hard man to please. So when I come across something so grand, so incredible, so splendiferous that it leaves me tight in the trousers I must share it with *ahem* “my peeps.” And that is precisely what I have found in the new ‘Hulk Vs.’ cartoons newly released this past Tuesday on DVD and BluRay. But… what the Hell does this have to do with Spidey, you ask?! Keep your pants on, Webheads, we’ll get there before we’re done.
HULK VS.
Directed by: Frank Paur & Sam Liu
Written by: Craig Kyle & Christopher Yost
Produced by/Released by: Marvel Entertainment/Lionsgate Home Entertainment
Honestly Spider-Fans, I didn’t expect much from this. When it comes to Marvel, unless we’re talking some of the movies, my expectations are pretty damn low these days – at least where the comics are concerned. Actually they’ve been low for years in that regard. The Spider-Man flicks are great, sure, and Iron Man was like taking a cinema rocket to Mars and kicking the Martian Empire’s ass. I grant you that. But before now my limited experience was watching the thrice-damned Ultimate Avengers crap for free on YouTube – mainly because I refuse to pay one damn dollar for anything with ‘Ultimate’ in it unless it’s sold at Jack in the Box. Had it just been a straight Avengers cartoon I might’ve liked it. You know, something where Thor is actually Thor and doesn’t have that silly damn glowing axe-hammer thing. Now you know what I mean when I say I am hard to please and I like what I like in specific ways. So my negative experience with that lead me to dismiss, out-of-hand, the other Marvel cartoons that followed – Dr. Strange and The Invincible Iron Man. Thanks to the new Hulk Vs. cartoons, I will be seeking those out today and doing it basically right after this review is posted.
Hulk Vs. is actually two, two, two cartoons in one. The first is a Hulk Vs. Wolverine cartoon that’s a little over half an hour and the second, Hulk Vs. Thor, is around forty-five minutes. You have to sit through trailers for Ultimate Avengers 2: Electric Boogaloo and Avengers Babies to get to the main event. Both cartoons come with some fairly weak special features, including looks at two upcoming cartoons: Wolverine and the X-Men and Thor: Tales of Asgard (or as I call it Thor Babies). More on those later, but for right now we’ll focus on each cartoon in order. And yeah there will be spoilers in here, cause I can’t fully explain to you how made-of-awesome these cartoons are without them, so if that twists your panties then turn back now cause we’re about to get waist-deep in the freaky.
SPOILERS BELOW
Hulk Vs. Wolverine – The Hulk’s decided to take a vacation up to Canada, prompting Department H to send in Wolverine to take him down. Unfortunately for Wolverine, Hulk Is Strongest One There Is – and the Weapon X program decides it needs to capture them both. This leads to what is one of the most violent, insane, fun cartoons I have ever seen. If Quentin Tarantino directed a cartoon it might look like this. Between Wolverine, Lady Deathstrike, Sabretooth and Deadpool there’s more slashing and stabbing than all of the Scream movies combined. See when it comes to cartoon superhero battles we’re used to how it used to be back in the old days. I was expecting Wolverine and the Hulk to square off in the frozen north, smashing a lot of trees and throwing crap… maybe Wolverine starting an avalanche to bury the Hulk or something stupid. You know how it is. We’d sit there praying we could see the two just kick the living crap out of each other but we’d never get that. So when Wolverine leaps onto the Hulk’s back early on and starts stabbing down into his back, repeatedly, right in the lungs… my jaw dropped and I thought I’d wet myself. Finally, a cartoon for me. A cartoon that speaks to me. A cartoon that cares about my needs. The brutal pounding Wolverine and the Hulk give one another is off the freaking chart – and that’s not even scratching the surface. When the Weapon X folks come into play (Sabretooth, Deadpool, Lady Deathstrike, Omega Red) it all hits the fan. You will see Wolverine slap Banner around like a sissy boy slap party. You will see body parts come off. You will see limbs on the floor. You will see someone get pulled apart – literally. You will see death, mayhem and carnage in a way you’re not expecting to see – and you will revel in the glory. And for the love of God you will die laughing every time Deadpool talks. God Almighty, please Marvel please give me a cartoon with this Deadpool. Screw it, give me a series with this Deadpool and put it on cable. He steals the freaking show and does something to Wolverine in here that I absolutely will not spoil cause it made me howl in glee. And definitely get past the credits – there’s another funny bit with Deadpool at the ‘dead’ end.
It couldn’t get better than this, right… ? Oh… oh you’re wrong.
Hulk Vs. Thor – Loki’s bored and the Enchantress is tired of being spurned by Thor. So as the evil armies of Asgard attack while the All-Father’s all REM in the Odinsleep, the God of Mischief makes his move and brings Thor to Asgard to kill his brother – the Mighty Thor. The very foundations of Asgard shake as the Enchantress separates Banner from the Hulk and allows Loki to take direct control of ol’ Greenskin’s body. The carnage that follows shakes the very foundations of Asgard. The Warriors Three are here, in all their epic awesomeness and so true to character you will want to cry. Balder’s here, and so is Sif , who is hot and fabulous. The fight scenes in here are so powerful they will leave you wide-eyed and wanting your Mommy. Frost giants, dark elves, trolls, Asgardian soldiers, Valkyries… Hulk, Thor… everything clashes together in a symphony of smash so delicious your taste buds will react. And hey, it all ends in the Underworld with Hela salivating over souls.
In these two cartoons we not only get fantastic Hulk cartoons but we also get insanely pleasing Marvel Universe cartoons. This is how you do Marvel cartoons. This is what we need to see more of – the characters getting depicted exactly as they are in the comics. Drop the Ultimate crap – cripes that whole scene is so messed up now it’s getting rebooted, with its incest and its jackassy glowing axe-hammer things. Keep putting these out, these cartoons more in tune with the actual Marvel Universe and I will lay money at Marvel Entertainment’s feet, giving them the cash that I had stopped spending on their wayward comics. And in the name of all things Holy give me a full Thor feature with this Thor and this Loki and this Asgard. I need this. This didn’t just meet my wants and expectations for a Thor cartoon – it surpassed them. That’s an understatement.
If you are a Thor fan, you must buy this DVD. If you are a Deadpool fan, you must buy this DVD. If you are a Wolverine fan, a Hulk fan… an Avengers fan, an X-fan… whatever you’re into, this thing flat-out wins. If you love the Marvel Universe these cartoons will make you happier than a pig in mud having slop poured down its throat. Bear in mind – these two cartoons are way more violent than most are used to seeing in Marvel cartoons. And with the number of limbs, the blood… maybe this isn’t for the really little kids.
More on those features. The Hulk Vs. Thor cartoon’s got a disappointing ‘Jack Kirby and Thor’ segment which only really scratches the surface of the greatness of Kirby’s Thor. And there’s a sneak peak at Thor: Tales of Asgard, another upcoming feature. Yes, it’s Thor Babies. It’s Thor and Loki and Sif and Amora and all the Asgardians except Odin as kids. I am sure it’ll be well done but… I’ll pass. Let me know when they’re grown up. The Huk Vs. Wolverine cartoon’s got a sneak peak at Wolverine and the X-Men which, again, looks to be well done but… Wolverine’s leading the X-Men and Cyclops is the dangerous loner? My kingdom for an X-Men cartoon that’s beautiful, well made and actually sticks to characters and history. This looks slick but it doesn’t look like it fits the bill. We’ll see – I might actually give that one a go.
So that wraps up our… what? Oh! You want to know what this has to do with Spidey? Well plenty! Spider-Man has either kicked the ass of or allied himself with a lot of the characters in these cartoons. The Hulk? Yep, and more than once! Wolverine? Again, yessiree! Has he partied with Thor? Well duh! And does Loki still owe him a favor despite having boobs now? Of course – some of us are even hoping that’ll bring an end to the current OMD/BND jackassery… but that’s a tale for another time. So Spidey’s shadow’s all over the place here. Then again… it’s all over the whole Marvel Universe, really. And I wish, I wish beyond words, that we could get Spider-Man cartoons of this quality. Cartoons with a real honest to goodness Spidey, free of the current comic taints, free from being trapped as a teenager like the current cartoon. I doubt that’s likely to happen though.
I know I take a lot of shots at Marvel Comics these days – and with good reason. As a lifelong Marvel fan I find Marvel lacking on so many levels today that it turns my stomach. But on the movie and cartoon front I have no quarrel. In fact, Hulk Vs. has reminded me of the deep love I have of Marvel’s characters… a love that the current Marvel’s been trying to wreck for the last several years. And on that front, for the nostalgia factor alone, I am grateful.
RATING:
5 out of 5 Webheads. Just perfect. Brilliant and action packed and true to character and fun and just damn perfect. And now, based on the strength of this product, I am off to get the Dr. Strange and Iron Man cartoons.
EDIT: After posting this review I noticed how this DVD has caused quite a stir amongst Thor fans, claiming Thor “hate” because Hulk gets the better of him in their fight. As a colossal Thor fan I really didn’t flinch over this. I didn’t take it personal or anything – he goes up against a Hulk with no Banner in him to hold him back… just all rage and power and hate and RAWR! Anyway, your mileage may, apparently, vary. Heh.
yeah i seen some of them… not really adult cartoons. i would put Hulk vs on the same tier as the X-men cartoons.
dont like Dr Strange… they crapped on the origin and thats a no watch for me. if ya gonna call it Spider-man/Dr Strage..then F*king make it that…
Hulk Vs. was awesome. I wish the Wolverine one had been longer. Even though I’m not a fan of Thor, I thought that story was fun also. T
he Ultimates comics were very well done. I read Ultimates III yesterday and I’m not sure why it has such a bad wrap. The art was amazing and the story wasn’t too bad. I felt like the Venom part didn’t make much sense but taken in context of the whole story, I’m not sure there’s all the hate. It was definitely a departure from the Millar run but I though it was entertaining,
Brad – I am also not happy with the Marvel Babies trend. If I want Marvel Babies I will read Chris Giarrusso’s excellent Mini Marvels. Otherwise, give me the grown-up stuff. Unless it’s a damn Power Pack cartoon, which I might actually enjoy. So long as it’s not some dark, twisted, cynical version a la Ultimate Marvel.
CrazyChris – It is my sworn duty and pleasure to educate any innocent bystanders in regards to Ultimate (i.e. Faux) Marvel. *grin*
I just want to mention that Ultimates volumes 1 and 2 are the best comics Marvel’s published in the current decade, because there’ve been some misguided comments here that might lead a few innocent bystanders to assume otherwise. 😉
George,
I watched the movie tonight and you nailed it. It’s the best animated feature Marvel has ever done. Deadpool stole the show and he sooo deserves his own movie.
I also agree that this is how Thor should be portrayed.
However, I’m discouraged they keep doing Marvel Babies. I want all the movies to be of this quality! Feel free to tackle any other Marvel movie.
I bet you wind up liking the Hulk vs Thor stuff despite that, FSU!
Ironman had too much supernatural stuff for my taste. I actually liked Ulitmate Avengers I but I have almost no memory of the seceond, so that is probably a bad sign. I think I’m going to go rent the Hulk vs. today. Not looking forward to the THor part as much because I’ve never been a big fan of the character.
I totally agree with everyone here that Iron Man is crap! But Dr. Strange was real good! Here is my ranking for the marvel animated Features so far:
1- Hulk Vs.
2- Dr. strange
3- Ultimate Avengers
4- Next avengers (AKA the Baby Avengers!)
5- Ultimate Avengers II
6- Iron man
Now only if they do the first issues of Todd’s run on Spider-Man featuring the Lizard like this. HULK SMASH CLAW PEOPLE! I swear when I saw the big guy lumbering down the hall, I was like “get off the track”. LOL
Good news? I checked out Dr. Strange and enjoyed it. Didn’t like how Dormammu looked but nonetheless enjoyed it.
Bad news? I had already picked up the Iron Man cartoon before everyone was saying “OMG stay away from that–!” – haven’t watched it yet.
Good news? I bought Iron Man used so I didn’t pay full price.
Gamer7 – Wolverine never really beats Hulk. He does stab him repeatedly, but the Hulk really pounds the Hell out of him in return.
Phil – The reviews and articles I wrote eons ago talking about the Ultimate Marvel (aka Faux Marvel) are lost to the ages. I haven’t been a part of Hero Realm since ’03 and everything I ever wrote there is long gone.
Hey, George–can you link me to some of your write-ups about the Ultimate universe? I know you (or somebody) wrote some reviews years ago in the old HERO REALM tearing it apart, but I can’t find it.
Anyway, I will be checking Hulk Vs. out. I’ve been trying to find a reason to like Marvel again myself.
I dunno… wolverine is strong and his blade never loses its edge…but he cant cut threw anything.
I just dont think wolverine can match up with Hulk so im gonna pass. I hate seeing Hulk get beat by him.
For the love of comics do not even rent Iron Man. Dont give Marvel the idea we liked it. I cant wait to get this though! Thanks so much for the awesome review, I was looking all over for one. Whowouldathought this site would have one……(lol)
I hope you like it Bevie! If not… umm… it’s Brad’s fault for letting me post the review!
Geez George! Now I have to order this right away! Amazon, here I come!
Thanks folks! Thanks Brad! Glad ya’ll liked it. Brad prepare to have your ass kicked – violently, repeatedly! – by this cartoon. I’ve watched it four times now.
great review.
i just watched this movie. it is everything George says and more!
just do yourselves a favor and get it!
George,
When you asked to review this I was a bit weary. Granted I’m interested in it, but this is a Spidey site. I love how you included his history with the two characters. Your writing is top notch, and I wish you were digging the current books. You reviewing current Spidey, on a monthly basis, at this quality would be a must read.
I’m sooo looking forward to this movie. I’m going to pick it up on Blu Ray this week. Hulk is my 2nd favorite Marvel character and Wolverine is my #3. Can’t wait for this smack down.
A Marvel cartoon… with Wolverine… ACTUALLY SLASHING AND STABBING SOMEONE WHO BLEEDS?!?!?!
SOLD!!!!!
Glad to see you back in your element, Bear! Note to the wise: Iron Man Movie: NO! Dr. Strange Movie: YES!
I think the current Iron Man animated series that’s on TV (not the DVD feature, I’m talking about the weekly cartoon) is about a teenaged Tony Stark.
http://www.buzzfocus.com/2008/03/21/nick-toons-to-breath-animated-life-into-wolverine-and-iron-man/
“Iron Man will feature a fatherless Tony, and follow the young entrepreneur/scientist through his teenage life.”
Yikes! Iron Man Babies.
The Invincible Iron Man. There’s a Baby Iron Man cartoon?? Iron Man Babies?
Which Iron Man cartoon is that one? The baby one?
And I strongly recommend the Doctor Strange one, if you’re fond of the mystic arts, it’ll be right up your street.
Thanks Patrick – glad you enjoyed it. I just got back from getting the Iron Man cartoon BluRay and I’m looking forward to firing that up tonight. I couldn’t find the Doctor Strange BluRay but it’ll turn up soon enough.
Nice Review George!
I love the reference to Electric Boogaloo LOL
Definitely picking this up in all its HD glory