I dedicate this post to everyone who voted for Magneto over Kyle Rayner in their previous fight (but everyone else read too). I want you to know that it was a valid choice for that fight, but Alan Scott is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Alan is FAR more powerful and his powers are of an entirely different nature, magical rather than technological. If you look at Alan’s powers, it’s almost like he was specifically designed to take down Magneto.
The biggest deciding factor in this fight, which distinguishes is from the Kyle/Magneto fight in a major way, is the amount of power in Alan’s reserves compared to Magneto. Alan draws his power from a magical artifact called the Starheart. The Starheart was created, billions of years ago, when the Guardians of the Universe gathered all the magical energy in the universe in an attempt to contain it. That energy became the Starheart. Alan literally has cosmic levels of magical power at his disposal. There's a reason that Silver Surfer was deemed a fair combatant against him in his last fight. I remember in Alan's last fight, it was brought up that in Brightest Day, the heroes were legitimately worried that Alan's powers could destroy the multiverse if he unleashed them. He did end up unleashing his full powers to DESTROY A GOD, which ended up destroying Alan in the process, but since Magneto is a few rungs down from god Alan can destroy Magneto and stop short of destroying himself.
Magneto, on the other hand, is much more limited. He can use a lot of power, but it fatigues him if he uses too much, too fast. From his Wiki:
Physical Condition: Magneto's ability to wield his superhuman powers effectively is dependent upon his physical condition. When severely injured, his body is unable to withstand the strain of manipulating great amounts of energy. When his powers are not at their peak, he also appears to have greater difficulty controlling forces other than magnetism. There is a possibility that Magneto simply has a genetic predisposition to magnetism that simply makes it easy for him to manipulate it. Magneto also is limited by the fact that he needs food, water and oxygen in order to survive. He is also susceptible to physical and mental fatigue that can ultimately affect his ability to adequately use his powers, especially if he overuses them in a short amount of time.
For all the reasons I am about to list, Magneto is going to really have to push his powers to the brink just to stay in the fight. Inevitably, he’s going to burn himself out. He will weaken eventually and then he will lose.
So now let’s look at the specific’s of Alan’s power. These are from his wiki or from the wiki entry on the Starheart ring (
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Starheart_Power_Ring):
Energy Sheath: He seemed to have a relatively permanent personal force-field that protected him from bullets and the like (described as an “invulnerability to metal”). This life sustaining aura protects him from harm. He can generate a field of life sustaining atmosphere and protection from harmful radiation, even if he is unconscious.
INVULNERABILITY TO METAL. Take a second and contemplate what that means in a fight against Magneto. Magneto’s main offensive tactic is throwing metal objects at his enemies, but Alan’s primary defense is that he is utterly invulnerable to metal. It can also protect Alan from “harmful radiation,” so that’s also going to negate Magneto’s ability to blast people with electromagnetic radiation. In order to harm Alan, Magneto will have to come up with attacks that are completely outside his usual norm, and that will force him to strain himself, leading to his powers running out.
For example, the only conceivable way Magneto could scratch Alan is if Magneto somehow used wood against Alan. Magneto can manipulate substances other than metal, but to do so he needs to go to the subatomic level and manipulate the magnetic bonds that hold atoms together. But there’s a reason Magneto mostly sticks to tossing metal around: it taxes more of his power to control other substances. Magneto has no power to spare in this fight. So just to remain competitive in this fight, Magneto has to put himself on the fast track towards burning his own powers out. And even that assumes Magneto will be able to figure out Alan’s vulnerability to wood. Magneto might eventually notice that Alan isn’t using his powers to affect wood and from that deduce Alan’s flaw, but by that time the fight will have gone on for a while and Magneto will already be fatigued from multiple futile attacks. I mean, this is a farm so must of the land is going to be fields without any trees. Alan doesn't have to get near any wood to tip Magneto off. Furthermore, Alan is an experienced superhero who has been working around his wood weakness for decades, so it’s not like exploiting that weakness will instantly take him down, anyway.
Speaking of experience, Alan is around 100 years old and has eternal youth. He's older and wiser than Magneto yet still in better shape.
Heat Beams: Alan can generate enough heat from his heat beams to melt down metal.
Any metal in this environment will be quickly reduced to slag. Actually, Alan would be better off transmuting the metal into plastic with his powers.
After the destruction of his ring by Extant, the long-term proximity to the energy has left him able to direct the green flame and its attendant constructs by sheer willpower alone.
I noticed in the Magneto vs. Kyle fight, someone said that Magneto could pull Kyle’s ring off. The above quote explains why that tactic would not work on Alan.
Green Lantern has extensive energy manipulation powers able to effect the entire spectrum including gravity, radiation, heat, light.
Like Magneto, Green Lantern can manipulate electromagnetic energy. However, Alan can go a step further and control other fundamental forces, like gravity. Alan’s powers are therefore much more diversified.
It has been discovered that Alan's body is composed entirely of green flame.
Thus, Alan’s body is made out of magical energy that would not be subject to the physical natural forces Magneto uses.
Phasing: Alan can move through solid matter (described as the ability to “move through the 4th dimension").
Alan could phase right through Magneto’s forcefields. Here’s an invalid counter argument: Magneto’s powers worked on the Vision and Kitty Pryde while they were intangible. Here’s why that argument is invalid: Kitty and Vision’s powers work by lowering their density so they can fit through the molecules of whatever they are phasing through. They’re molecules are still physically present, they’re just less dense, so Magneto can work his powers on those molecules. Alan’s phasing power, on the other hand, works by moving through a SEPARATE DIMENSION. Magneto’s powers would thus not be able to reach Alan while Alan is intangible. Alan can therefore phase through Magneto’s shields and attack him directly.
Hypnotize
Magneto is resistant to telepathy, but is he resistant to hypnotism? Telepathy works by probing into the brain with psychic energy, which Magneto’s helmet would stop. But comic book hypnotism usually works by mesmerizing someone through their eyes and ears with a display. Magneto’s senses aren’t cut off, so this actually might work on him. I’m not sure but it is an interesting alternative way Alan could win this.
Invisibility
Magneto won’t be able to see Alan in this fight. Because Alan is composed of magic, not magnetic atoms, Magneto will not be able to sense Alan with his powers.
Electromagnetic Scanning: Alan is able to detect most normal electromagnetic phenomena are within an amazing range, including radio, television, infrared and ultraviolet.
Thus, Magneto will NOT be able to hide from Alan.
Expert Martial Artist: Before becoming a super hero he took Martial Arts classes, he applies what he learns on almost every adventure and was trained further by Wildcat.
Alan also has better hand-to-hand combat ability than Magneto.
So here’s basically what’s going to happen. Magneto has a lot of power, so I do think he could stay alive for this fight. This will be a massive, epic battle. However, Magneto will really have to push his limits and his weakness of getting fatigued will kick in. Alan, on the other hand, could keep fighting until the end of time, drawing on universal levels of power. Magneto, after a valiant effort, will eventually collapse due to fatigue.
Now onto some counter arguments:
gregxb wrote:Alan Scott is vulnerable to wood, right? This is a farm, there are A LOT of nails in the wood, and metal attached to wood..... the entire farm is Magneto's weapon.
Alan can create any effect he can imagine with his magic powers, and that includes instantly transmuting all metal in the area into some other substance. Or Alan can just disintegrate all the metal in the area, THAT TOO. Also, if metal is attached to the wood, then it won't be able to get through Alan's forcefields because Alan can block the metal portion. The wooden part would stick through the forcefield, but the metal part would be stuck. Alan can cast his shields out wide enough that the wood can't reach him if used in that way. To get a hit in, Magneto would have to throw wood,
and only wood, at Alan, and that's going to tax Magneto's powers big time.
Two-Bit Specialist wrote:I voted for Magneto. I've been in the receiving end of his might, and he's not to be underestimated.
~My Two Cents
I respectfully request that you take a closer look at how their powers match up and reconsider. This isn't the same as the Kyle Rayner fight. I explained a lot of the differences above.
Here's another difference: Kyle controls "light," which is electromagnetic radiation, so he would have a hard time harming Magneto with it. Alan's powers are made from magical green flame, so Magneto won't be able to vie for control of those same forces. Magneto isn't a sorcerer. Alan, on the other hand, CAN control electromagnetic energy, so the advantage goes one way in Alan's favor.
FSUSpiderFan wrote:Magneto doesn't know about that vulnerability but it probably is a matter of time before he sends some hunks of barn at Mags in this way and.... it won't be pretty once Magneto realizes it.
The problem is that Alan is smart, and he won't do anything to tip Magneto off. Alan is also way more powerful than Magneto, so Magneto will have to use his powers to the maximum just to stay alive. I do think Magneto will figure it out eventually because Magneto isn't dumb, but by that time Magneto will already be extremely fatigued. And, in that fatigued state, he'll have to stretch his powers enough to use them on wood. That's just too much of a gamble against an opponent as powerful and experienced as Alan.
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