Comics you dislike but others love?

[DarkKnightJared]

Now, this one I know I'm going to get hate for.

I absolutely hate John Byrne's Superman. His method of rebooting the character was to basically suck out everything that was fun and interesting about the character. Superman was an annoying yuppie, and his origin was full of stupid Cold War propaganda bullshit. Luthor was turned into a half-assed Kingpin clone. His treatment of the New Gods was absolutely terrible (anyone who writes an issue where Big Barda and Superman are brainwashed to go into porn should be MOCKED AND RIDICULED FOR ALL TIME). The only good thing I can think of that he did was make Lois into a stronger character--and even that was just by doing a then-contemporary version of her character from the Golden Age!

I basically feel that Superman from any other era is better. Yes, even Electric Blue. In terms of reboots, Morrison's Action Comics in his first issue is far better than Byrne's entire run COMBINED.

Though, to be fair, I may have a bit of a bias, because from everything I've read of the man, he sounds kind-of like a terrible human being in general.

[Aziz]

Luthor was turned into a half-assed Kingpin clone.

I like that version in the cartoons

[Berserkfury819]

In terms of reboots, Morrison's Action Comics in his first issue is far better than Byrne's entire run COMBINED.

[DarkKnightJared]

Luthor was turned into a half-assed Kingpin clone.

I like that version in the cartoons

Well, in the cartoon, they also showed fairly early on his mad scientist side, which took over more and more as he went into JL:TAS and JLU.

Also, to be fair, I think I kinda got on a roll and went a little hyperbolic. For example, I haven't really read anything with Electric Blue Superman, so I can't say if that's actually better than Byrne than not.

[Donomark]

Batgirl #1 by Gail Simone and Adrian Syaf, apparently.

Though people who claim to like it can't name shit reasons why besides the art and "Hey, Killing Joke reference!"

[Aziz]

Batgirl #1 by Gail Simone and Adrian Syaf, apparently.

Though people who claim to like it can't name shit reasons why besides the art and "Hey, Killing Joke reference!"

I like it, cause......................
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I haven't read it yet, skipping DC reboot as of full

[NickMB]

Batgirl #1 by Gail Simone and Adrian Syaf, apparently.

Though people who claim to like it can't name shit reasons why besides the art and "Hey, Killing Joke reference!"

It's alright. It's competent. It isn't spectacular though, and it would've been helpful if it had been brilliant to make it easier to sell people on getting rid of Oracle.

[DarkKnightJared]

Batgirl #1 by Gail Simone and Adrian Syaf, apparently.

Though people who claim to like it can't name shit reasons why besides the art and "Hey, Killing Joke reference!"

Honestly, I did like it--I liked the way Gail voiced this Barbara, different in many ways but still feels familiar. I also think The Mirror is an interesting idea for a villain and I'm curious to see why he (or maybe she?) wants to kill Barbara.

But yes, the art was great.

[Tabularasa]

Action Comics #1: Um...how did anyone who actually read Superman stories before enjoy this? And I don't mean to offend anyone who did enjoy this, more power to ya, but I thought this was possibly one of the worst issues I've read in awhile. Superman basically acts like Batman, Lex Luthor is degraded to some dude just sipping a can of soda and giving General Lane advice, the Clark and old landlady scene felt more like a Lee/Ditko issue of ASM, oh and Superman throws people through walls, most likely killing them or injuring them for life, for no real reason. I don't care if this is how the character was in the golden age, he hasn't been that character for YEARS. Also? Getting rid of Ma and Pa Kent is complete and utter crap. If they were alive, they would be ashamed of how Clark is acting.

Detective Comics #1: The Joker wasn't even acting like the Joker. Besides the fact I don't think I've ever seen him try to board a train, and that Batman could never really lose a fight to the joker, this issue didn't even bother to include Bruce Wayne. Oh and is Alfred a hologram? Seriously? This along with the Green Arrow issue just makes me feel like DC really wants to write an Iron Man issue. And the ending was shock value and a disgusting one at that.

I'm happy for the people who are jumping onto the new 52 with these 2 books, but it was very below average for me and an example of poor writing.

[Aziz]

Action Comics #1: Um...how did anyone who actually read Superman stories before enjoy this? And I don't mean to offend anyone who did enjoy this, more power to ya, but I thought this was possibly one of the worst issues I've read in awhile. Superman basically acts like Batman, Lex Luthor is degraded to some dude just sipping a can of soda and giving General Lane advice, the Clark and old landlady scene felt more like a Lee/Ditko issue of ASM, oh and Superman throws people through walls, most likely killing them or injuring them for life, for no real reason. I don't care if this is how the character was in the golden age, he hasn't been that character for YEARS. Also? Getting rid of Ma and Pa Kent is complete and utter crap. If they were alive, they would be ashamed of how Clark is acting.

That is nothing like the Golden Age

Detective Comics #1: The Joker wasn't even acting like the Joker. Besides the fact I don't think I've ever seen him try to board a train, and that Batman could never really lose a fight to the joker, this issue didn't even bother to include Bruce Wayne. Oh and is Alfred a hologram? Seriously? This along with the Green Arrow issue just makes me feel like DC really wants to write an Iron Man issue. And the ending was shock value and a disgusting one at that.

Bless you, you encouraged me to love my decision of ignoring post reboot DC entirely

[dornwolf]

Action Comics #1: Um...how did anyone who actually read Superman stories before enjoy this? And I don't mean to offend anyone who did enjoy this, more power to ya, but I thought this was possibly one of the worst issues I've read in awhile. Superman basically acts like Batman, Lex Luthor is degraded to some dude just sipping a can of soda and giving General Lane advice, the Clark and old landlady scene felt more like a Lee/Ditko issue of ASM, oh and Superman throws people through walls, most likely killing them or injuring them for life, for no real reason. I don't care if this is how the character was in the golden age, he hasn't been that character for YEARS. Also? Getting rid of Ma and Pa Kent is complete and utter crap. If they were alive, they would be ashamed of how Clark is acting.

That is nothing like the Golden Age

Sadly though Golden Age-style is the intent. I'm with Tabularasa on this Superman just wasn't right and the plot itself was meh.

[Wombat 909]

I cannot stand Chris Samnee's art. I really don't like the style he does. My unpopular opinion

[Aziz]

Not a fan of these:
Kingdom Come
Marvels
Every Golden age story starring someone other than Superman

I cannot stand Chris Samnee's art. I really don't like the style he does. My unpopular opinion

His work is decent

[Aziz]

Alright, I read plenty of issues of Chris Claremont's work on the X-Men, and a lot of the stories he wrote are downright awful

There are some good stories like the Hellfire Club, some stuff before the Phoenix Saga, stuff between Phoenix & Dark Phoenix, but he wrote lots of stories for them in space, how they got involved is stupid, how they're attached is stupid, why the former emperor of the Shi'ar and Lilandra's brother lust for a woman in a far far galaxy is awful, what kind of stories is this? "He liked your mother, I had to escape, he found out airplane so your mother had to use the only chute in the plane for your survival Scott & Alex, she refused the emperor, so he tortured her to death before my eyes, and I had to join a band of space pirates just to get back at him"

Then there's the thing with Deathbird going to Earth to kidnap Corsair or kill him, then do this and that, then she kidnaps Professor X just to keep the thrown hers? F*** you b****, you had the chance to keep her hidden, act worried, cremate her body and then take the thrown, but no, you had to torture us with more X-Men in Space awful adventures

I'm not overlooking that awful corny stuff with how Phoenix was first cosmic powers within Jean, then she was a space entity that entered Jean, and more horrid stuff with Cable's mother who turns out later to be the Goblin Queen

Later there's this half***ed story with Leiland or whoever that cyborg is from the Hellfire club when the X-Men were pretending to be dead, and it came while introducing Jubilee (I like her), it was before Acts of Vengeance, but then there's a Wolverine story to come, and AoV came through it, that story was placed before the X-Men story introducing Jubilee, later what do you know? Acts of Vengeance happens on time in comic. It's true that Archie Goodwin is to blame for making his Wolverine story taking place before X-Men, but his story was still written better than a lot of what I read of Claremont's run on X-Men

Chris Claremont's work on other characters is much much better, his work on X-Men is lots of turd with some gems to come through, it's mostly highly overrated work

[remoteman]

I've been working my way through Grant Morrison's run on J.L.A and while I wouldn't say that I dislike it, its status as a classic is one that I find vaguely confusing. It's okay, but really nothing special and certainly not Morrison's best work.