Friendly Fire Fight Club #180 - 'FINAL FANTASY!'

[GeorgeEl]

Whenever I come across an evenly matched fight club event, I ask the Great Arbiter of All Things (in my house), my six year old son, John. When I asked him who would win in a fight between Aladdin and Peter Pan, he asked if the genie was going to help Aladdin. Upon hearing Aladdin fights alone("Not even the monkey Dad?!"), he shrugged his shoulders and said "Peter'd win easy. He can fly." I told him Aladdin had the magic carpet to help him fly. "Dad, its just a rug. Peter can slice it up with his sword." So there you have it Fight Clubbers, I'm voting Peter Pan.

Haha, cute. I must respectfully disagree with John. If Pan was a faster or more agile flyer, then he'd be right, but the carpet dogded hundreds of rocks flying through the cave of wonders. It's dodged dragon fire, guards' swords, ect. in the series, Thrawn mentioned. Keeping away from being sliced will be easy work. Not to mention, it'd have Aladdin defending it with a sword. The random pokes Pan will be throwing at it while in flight will not be anything to worry about in this fight. But John would be right if Pan and the carpet were sword-fighting!

[Thrawn]

While Pan's mimicry and senses are nice, Aladdin is more cunning and smarter. Pan's tricks MAY catch him off guard once, but Aladdin is smarter and more likely to trick Pan than vise-versa.

There's also the matter of the Goblin King's army.

He is just a more cunning combatant; if he can trick Jafar, tricking Pan will be simple. Also playing against Pan is his incredible pride.

I actually hadn't considered that. Pan does have a very childlike mentality at times.

I'm still not a hundred percent sure who wins this fight either. I like Peter Pan better, but the more I think about it, age, experience, size, strength seem to favor Aladdin.

What's the deal with Pan's danger sense again? That's new to me. Is it just really strong intuition?

[Spider-Girl]

This is really tough for me. I'm going to go with Aladdin because I think that while they may be evenly matched in the beginning, Aladdin will hold out until the bitter end when Peter's pixie dust will wear off. I also think that with all that Aladdin has been through, he has more experience than an eternal boy.

[CrazyChris]

I'm actually going to guess that Peter Pan has more experience than Aladdin. For all we know, Pan is several times older than Aladdin (in terms of actual years) and has spent most of that time adventuring and sword fighting.

Some other points...

Aladdin's superior size and strength: This is true, but due to the battle arena I think being smaller might be an advantage. Also, Pan's small size has never stopped him from winning fights.

Pixie dust: If it really can run out, then that's a major factor to consider, but I need an example of it running out in order to consider it.

Intelligence: I think they are both equals in this regard and they are both used to fighting people not as smart as they are, so this is an equal (dis)advantage on both sides.

Pan could slice the carpet: Eh, I don't think it would be that easy. Aladdin has (almost literally) been to hell and back with that carpet and it's survived.

Aladdin has fought dragons, etc, in his animated show: That's a really good point, Aladdin does have a more diversified background. But has he ever fought a small, quick, skilled, extremely clever opponent who can fly before? I think Aladdin is a little out of his comfort zone.

[Thrawn]

But has he ever fought a small, quick, skilled, extremely clever opponent who can fly before? I think Aladdin is a little out of his comfort zone.

How's this?



I haven't watched the tv show in 10 years or more, so I don't have anything more specific right now.

Intelligence: I think they are both equals in this regard and they are both used to fighting people not as smart as they are, so this is an equal (dis)advantage on both sides.

I don't think so. Aladdin has defeated demons and sorcerers who are very clever. I'd give him the edge. Peter Pan is cunning for sure, but he does have an ego that can be exploited.

For all we know, Pan is several times older than Aladdin (in terms of actual years) and has spent most of that time adventuring and sword fighting.

That's possibly true. However, Aladdin is still use to dealing with much more powerful opponents than Peter Pan is.

[CrazyChris]

That video is close but not quite what I'm looking for. I didn't get a sense that the creature was as crafty as Peter Pan would be. Peter Pan would be using the same type of mischievous tricks that Al was using in that scene.

[GeorgeEl]

Aladdin's superior size and strength: This is true, but due to the battle arena I think being smaller might be an advantage. Also, Pan's small size has never stopped him from winning fights..

Being smaller is not an advantage here. They are equally agile *See Aladdin marketplace video. What Pan's small size may gain him in agility, Aladdin makes up for with skill. But Aladdin has the clear strength advantage. Pan's punches and physical attacks will be that of a roughly 11-year-old boy. Aladdin's will be that of a man at his physical peak.

Intelligence: I think they are both equals in this regard and they are both used to fighting people not as smart as they are, so this is an equal (dis)advantage on both sides.

Granted, I'll give you the palace guards in comparison to pirates, but as Thrawn said, Aladdin's other villains are much more clever than Pan's *See Jafar.

Pan could slice the carpet: Eh, I don't think it would be that easy. Aladdin has (almost literally) been to hell and back with that carpet and it's survived.

Sorry, John.

[CrazyChris]

Pan won't be punching, he'll be slashing, and his petite size hasn't stopped him from besting people bigger and stronger than him in the past. And I don't really think of Jafar as crafty on the level of Peter Pan. He's sly and manipulative, a good liar and a sneak, but that's not the type of cleverness I had in mind because it doesn't really apply to a straightforward fight where lies and disguises will only get you so far.

[butters911]

They are pretty evenly matched, but Im going to go with Aladdin. An adult can always beat up a kid. Trust me. I beat up kids all the time

[FSUSpiderFan]

On the experience point, Peter has been fighting supernatural creatures and nasty adults for hundreds of years so he has Aladdin by ages on that.

Peter will also be able to make friends with the fairies in the Labrynth and turn them on Aladdin.

As far as strength, Peter is supernaturally enhanced and is much stronger than your average 11 year old.

They are pretty evenly matched, but Im going to go with Aladdin. An adult can always beat up a kid. Trust me. I beat up kids all the time

Peter was able to kick a lot of adult pirate ass.

When Peter realizes that the carpet is what makes Aladdin fly he will attack it especially when he realizes that it is sentient and Aladdin freaks out about it getting hurt.

Peter is not going to run out of Fairy Dust. He is coated in the stuff and may even be able to produce it.

Peter is a very clever boy and routinely outwits adults. I don't accept that Aladdin is smarter.

Peter can go around a corner ahead of Aladdin, throw his voice in the other direction, and then stab Aladdin in the back as Aladdin peaks toward the voice.

[CrazyChris]

I think Season 2 is going to go down as the season of the really close matches featuring really unconventional character choices.

[Guyman442]

Do they at least get to pass Go?

EDIT: Can I get some details on the duration of Pixie Dust? I don't recall anyone ever running out of it once exposed, but my memory is fuzzy. If anyone can confirm an example of someone needing a re-up then I'll have to take that into consideration.

According to some continuities, Peter flies without use of Pixie Dust. He has his own power to do that.

even if that's not the "official" case, Peter Pan FTW.

[CrazyChris]

Let's get some jams up in here!

[Spider-Girl]

Oh my...this is really back and forth!

[FSUSpiderFan]

Oh my...this is really back and forth!

Yeah and luckily it's in my direction right now.

With Peter's danger sense he will be able to choose the correct direction in the Labyrnth, meanwhile Aladdin will be running blind and likely to run into many pitfalls. So he can can move quicker get ahead and lay traps. Use his voice throwing or shadow to trick Aladdin into danger.

Although, Peter wouldn't need to do all this because he would win in a straight up fight because he is the superior figher/swordsman but he loves toying with his opponent.

Aladdin's style is usually running away and throwing obstacles at his opponents. He isn't very skilled in offensive combat.