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Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

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'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!' - Who Wins?

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Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby George Berryman » Tue May 24, 2011 5:22 pm

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"It is I, Bruce Lee, the deadliest man to have ever walked the Earth with the possible exception of John Wayne or George Berryman. The Gong of Conflict has once again been pounded upon - it is time to FIGHT!"

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"This week Two-Bit Specialist challenged iron_patriot, who accepted. As his champion, iron_patriot chose and a DC legacy character and the wielder of the Scarab... Jaime Reyes, the current BLUE BEETLE!"

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"In response, Two-Bit Specialist chose an armored specialist and one of Marvel's heavy hitters... the Bleeding Edge version of IRON MAN!"

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"With the combatants chosen, George Berryman informs me that he has selected Cybertron as tonight's fight venue."

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""Cybertron is the homeworld of the Autobots and the Decepticons before their fuel-injected civil war brought them to the planet Earth.

"The Golden Avenger against a Scarab wielder! Those are your choices! Who wins? Who loses? You decide. Vote NOW! Take us away, Elvis Presley!"



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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby tnr105 » Tue May 24, 2011 6:07 pm

As cutting edge as Tony's armor is, the scarab is alien tech light-years away. I don't really think this would be a fair fight, and even though Jaime has less experience than Tony, he has more raw power.
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby Thrawn » Tue May 24, 2011 6:12 pm

I need to hear some arguments. I'm more familiar with Iron Man, so even if what TNR says is true, and Beetle is more powerful, Iron Man is still much more experienced and just plain smarter.

So convince me why I shouldn't be voting for Iron Man in this match, Iron Patriot.
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby HookrsAndSpdrMn » Tue May 24, 2011 6:34 pm

As much as I dislike that drunk Iron Man, I am in the same boat as Thrawn in knowing more about him. The crafty bastard usually has an ace up his armored sleeve but I'd love to see him fall, convince me!

Awesome Cybertron (I wouldn't be surprised if greedy Tony Stark gets distracted with trying to hijack the Matrix of Power though and loses sight of his real goal)
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby tnr105 » Tue May 24, 2011 7:53 pm

Jaime Reyes:

The Scarab has displayed the following abilities since its bond to Jaime Reyes. It can opt to use its powers of its own accord, though it typically defers to Jaime. However, if Jaime doesn't want the Scarab to use a power, he can override it. Should Jaime fall prey to a body-controlling power, the Scarab will take control of the armor.

Some of the Scarab's powers can function regardless of whether the armor is active or not; others, however, only work when the armor is in use. Those powers that depend on the armor are listed under its heading.

According to Jaime, the Scarab has a number of 'options' beyond those listed below, some of which are apparently capable of destroying a city.

Artificial Intelligence: Normally, the Reach's command sentience parameters, stored in a Scarab's database, give a Scarab sentience and serve to make it obedient to the Reach. An infusion of magical energies sometime in the distant past altered the Scarab, denying the Reach control. When the Scarab's infiltrator mode was triggered, the Scarab was able to develop its sentience without being in service to the Reach. It also had the opportunity to access the programming of other Scarabs as well. As a result, the Scarab has its own mind, with full access to its own programming,

* Symbiotic Synaptic Interface: The Scarab's nervous system is bonded to Jaime's, letting the two share their thoughts and emotions. The Scarab communicates with Jaime as a voice in his mind (which sounds like Jaime's mother). No-one else can hear it.
* Scarab Mindlink: The Scarab can mentally communicate with Scarabs that have not integrated with a host. It can also interface with Scarabs which have created full infiltrators, although this requires Jaime to breach the infiltrator's armor.

Tracking Systems: The Scarab can track anything which produces energy, be it biological, technological or mystical. It can track anyone Jaime met since it bonded with him, from at least seventy miles distant.
Scarab Sight: The Scarab can scan the people Jaime encounters, informing him of any major physical conditions (such as pregnancy). It can identify and scan metahumans. It can identify people related to those it's already encountered via genetic analysis.

The Scarab is able to identify thought-patterns, enabling it to see if something is sentient. It can identify matching energy signatures, letting it see if the energy patterns were developed from the same basis. It can also see extra-dimensional objects. It is continually aware of the electricity in the surrounding environment.

It can perceive magic, see how a magical effect can be dispelled, and see through magical concealment.

The Scarab's scans can cover at least a five mile square. It communicates the information it gleans to Jaime in a manner he can understand.

* Temporal Flux Detection: The Scarab can detect changes in the timeline affecting the Blue Beetle legacy; to Jaime, this manifests as intense static.

Network Connection: The Scarab can establish a connection to communication systems, enabling Jaime to speak to the person on the other end.

Clothing Manifestation: The Scarab can create clothes for Jaime, apparently from recycled waste and skin, which melt when he takes them off.

Concealment: The Scarab is capable of concealing itself from 21st century technology (though Skeets, from the 25th century, was able to find it). It can shut off cameras and microphones in its vicinity. The Scarab has blocked a magical attempt to probe it, lashing out at the person who tried.

Healing

Host Reconfiguration: The Scarab can modify Jaime's body to a certain extent (e.g., offering to give him extra fingers), although just how far the modifications can go is unknown.

Blue Beetle Armor: The Scarab can create a distinctive suit of armor in response to Jaime's thoughts, or when it deems use of the armor necessary. Once the Scarab dispels the armor, it retracts back into Jaime's body.

* Superhuman Strength
* Superhuman Agility
* Environmental Protection: The armor allows Jaime to survive in a variety of hazardous environments ranging from Earth orbit, to the timestream, to the Bleed. It can survive extreme temperature and pressure. It can survive the heat and impact of atmospheric re-entry without seeming damage, even when the earth around it has been turned to glass.
* Armor Reconfiguration: The armor can reconfigure itself to create a wide array of tools and weapons, including an energy cannon, a sword and shield, a grappling hook, an energy blaster, claws, wings, and a set of large powered blades attached to the hands, over a foot in length, that can shear through tree trunks.

The armor's equipment is mutable to a certain extent, most noticeably in the wings; initially, they were composed of the same solid 'carapace' which comprises the rest of the suit, but later, they began manifesting themselves in the form of a colorless, translucent material. Whether this is because of changes in the suit's capabilities, or because Jaime intended the alteration, has not been made clear.
* Partial Armor Manifestation: Jaime can manifest parts of the armor - like the energy blaster - without needing to manifest the whole suit.
* Wing Shields: The armor can create a pair of wings, enabling Jaime to fly and hover. They can also double as shields, should the need arise.
o Jet Propulsion: When in flight, the armor can manifest a 'jet engine', enabling Jaime to fly at greater speed, at the expense of close maneuverability.
* Energy Manipulation: The Scarab can shape and manipulate the energy it stores for a variety of effects, including energy blasts, energy cocoons, small-scale solid constructs (shields, chains, etc.), and 3-D holograms. Its energy shields can block a Sinestro Corps ring's blasts.
* Antagonist Adaptation: The armor can tailor its blasts for use against specific opponents (e.g., Kryptonite radiation against a Kryptonian, suppression blast against a mob). The blasts can penetrate a Green Lantern ring's shield. The armor can call up anti-magic effects against magical opponents. By the Scarab's own estimation, it can even develop countermeasures that can take on the Spectre.
* Energy Bubble: The armor is able to create a temporary energy bubble around Jaime and/or people nearby. The bubble shields those inside from outside attacks, but prevents them from leaving. A Flash who tries to vibrate through it will find themselves blasted by the bubble.
* Vibrational Frequency Manipulation: The Scarab can negate the vibrational frequencies of extra-dimensional objects, pulling them into this reality. The area of effect of this latter is unknown; it has been seen to affect objects at least the size of Brother Eye. According to the Reach, this should be impossible.

The Scarab can also shift Jaime out of phase with the universe, making him invisible and intangible to anything apart from Reach-tech.
* Bleed Diving: Jaime can shift into the Bleed, the space that connects the various universes. He can utilize the Bleed's unique properties for various effects, such as instantaneous teleportation, or shifting back in time a few minutes to appear in more than one place simultaneously. At best, he has only enough energy to dive into the Bleed three times in quick succession.
* Translation: The armor can translate Mother Box communication into a form comprehensible to Jaime.
* Waste Disposal: While wearing the armor, Jaime finds that he doesn't need to go to the toilet, though he does still need rest.
Strength level

The Scarab's own strength is minimal. However, its armor grants its hosts enough strength to move small trucks.
Weaknesses
Green Lantern Corps: The Scarab sees the Green Lantern Corps as the 'enemy'. In Jaime's first few days as the Beetle, the Scarab did everything in its power to get him away from the Lanterns - up to and including shifting him outside the universe. As Jaime's experience with the Scarab's armor has developed, the Scarab has taken a more aggressive approach against the Lanterns, urging Jaime to kill them.

The Green Lantern rings, for their part, fear the Scarab, responding in different ways depending on their wielders (e.g. John Stewart's sparks, as if afraid, while Guy Gardner's induced what can only be described as a 'super-migraine', along with an intense desire to kill the Scarab's bearer).

Truce With Nature: The Scarab will not hurt nature, or the magical creatures thereof (beings who draw their power from the Green, for example), of its own volition.

Alien Sentience: The Scarab's sentience is distinctly alien; while it won't hurt /nature/, it has shown no such reluctance when it comes to humans, being willing to injure or kill them. Fortunately, Jaime has so far prevented it from killing anyone.
Reach Tech: The Scarab's armor can be breached by the weapons of other Scarabs. Equally, however, the Scarab is able to breach other Scarabs' armor.

Originally, the Scarab was unable to attack the Reach and their technology. Jaime overrode the Scarab's programming, 'reprogramming' it so that it was able to fight the Reach.

Magic: While the Scarab is aware of magic, it doesn't understand it. It's able to perceive, absorb, and disrupt magical energies, but little else. As a result, creatures of magic are often a significant challenge. The Scarab can't analyse certain mystical creatures, and so is unable to develop countermeasures for them. When faced with certain other mystical entities, such as the Spectre, the Scarab panics, offering Jaime ever more powerful weapons to take them on.

Magnetic Shielding: Strong magnetic fields block the Scarab's ability to track DNA.

Dispelling The Armor: Dispelling the armor originally caused Jaime intense pain. As time has passed, however, Jaime has found the process getting easier.


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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby FSUSpiderFan » Tue May 24, 2011 8:01 pm

The Beetle may have Stark beat in how powerful his alien technology but he is a genius that has faced those kinds of disadvantages before. Kang... The fact that this is on Cybertron will play to Tony's advantage. He can analyze the Transformer tech and upgrade his armor with it. He could also turn the whole planet of Transformers against the Blue Beetle. I wouldn't put it past him.
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby Two-Bit Specialist » Tue May 24, 2011 10:44 pm

I read up on Blue Beetle (part of why it took me so long to get the match going) and found out that the Scarab is hesitant about harming nature and stuff...

...which is why I'm bummed that the battle is taking place in CYBERTRON of all places.

But anyway, like FSUSpiderFan said, Stark is a technological genius. Using his own armor tech, he'll be able to use Cybertron to his advantage. He can certainly attack Blue Beetle with a barrage of beams, but he's also crafty. He's got the right balance of offensive and defensive skills.

Also, when Stark wants something badly, he'll get it done, no matter what it takes.
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby George Berryman » Tue May 24, 2011 10:47 pm

Two-Bit Specialist wrote:I read up on Blue Beetle (part of why it took me so long to get the match going) and found out that the Scarab is hesitant about harming nature and stuff...

...which is why I'm bummed that the battle is taking place in CYBERTRON of all places.


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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby AmFan15 » Wed May 25, 2011 12:11 am

Beetle does seem to have more powerful weaponry, including the ability to absorb energy, such as Tony's repulsor blasts.
However, Jaime is a kid, not even out of high school, whereas Tony Stark is one of the greatest scientific minds in the Marvel U. So great, in fact, that he created these:
Nanobots: Tiny nanobots can attack machines and tear into their armor. A certain variety used against aliens can turn their biological weaponry against them.

I think, since the scarab is a sentient being, it will be able to fight off the invading nanobots...but while it's fighting off the foes inside, it leaves Jaime defenseless against the enemy outside: Namely, the Invincible Iron Man!
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby iron_patriot » Wed May 25, 2011 2:51 am

Okay, I'm here!

What Jaime has going for him:
-The suit can be concealed from 21st century technology,granted the Iron Man armor is no toaster, but the Beetle armor is still centuries away, so Tony's tracking devices won't work, and I don't know if Tony will be able to see him.
-The costume is intelligent, and knows what to use against their enemies.
-The suit is heavily armored,it can even survive atmospheric re-entry and suppose Tony can damage the armor, it can regenerate and heal Jaime.
-Cybertron's terrain has no life, and so the scarab won't hesitate giving Jaime the most powerful weapons possible.
-Beetle can shift into the Bleed, allowing him to teleport, or go back in time a few minutes.
-Blue Beetle has those wings, which can double as shields and allow him to fly really fast. Not sure how it compares to Iron Man's repulsor blast powered flight, however.
-The armor can shapeshift to form weapons like swords, guns, etc. and even turn into something like a Hulkbuster. It was from Batman Brave and the Bold,though, so I'm not sure it's in the comics as well.
-The Scarab made mentions of a weapon powerful enough to attack The Spectre. Not familiar with the Spectre?
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The Spectre is the most powerful known being in the universe capable of virtually any feat. His powers vastly increased over the years, At times the Spectre utilized the mystic Ring of Life to perform feats beyond his powers.

Uhh...yeah.

Things going against Jaime:
-The Bleeding Edge armor has those nano-bots, and can use those on BB.
-He is just a relatively new teenage hero while Tony has been in the business for years, and is one of the most intelligent people in the Marvel Universe, he even made a fully functional armor IN A CAVE! WITH A BUNCHA SCRAPS!
-Jaime doesn't want to kill him, so he can't use too much force.
-Tony is a very crafty man, he can(and will!) use the environment, with all its advance technology, to his advantage.
-Tony will not quit.

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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby HookrsAndSpdrMn » Wed May 25, 2011 9:21 am

You were winning me over there Iron_Patriot until you started throwing out ways Iron Man can beat him.. now I'm back on the fence... Not supposed to make your opponent look that good in your own arguments :)
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby iron_patriot » Wed May 25, 2011 9:29 am

Gosh darn it. I was supposed to look at both sides equally but I did it too well. [smilie=spidey_shrug.gif]
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby FSUSpiderFan » Wed May 25, 2011 9:42 am

iron_patriot wrote:Gosh darn it. I was supposed to look at both sides equally but I did it too well. [smilie=spidey_shrug.gif]

In Fight Club you don't look at your opponent equally. You look at them as slime that needs to be bashed into submission. :lol:
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby SaviorSpyder CJ » Wed May 25, 2011 10:53 am

I see the fight going one of two ways:

The Scarab scans Bleeding Edge, and gives Jaime every possible countermeasure to beat Tony's weapons, or:

The Scarab makes use of Cybertronian tech and gives Jaime a GIANT advantage.

I love both of these guys, but damn. Tony's met his match.
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Re: Friendly Fire Fight Club #128 - 'TITANS on ROBOWORLD!'

Postby FSUSpiderFan » Wed May 25, 2011 11:37 am

Does the Scarab scan and use outside tech or does it usually just rely on it's own resources?
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