Comics you dislike but others love?

[tnr105]

Ed Brubaker's Captain America run. I don't like that Bucky got retconned into being alive as Winter Soldier and I really don't like Bucky Cap.

Blasphemy! Bucky's journey was the best character arch of the past decade, but hey, to each his own.

Captain America Reborn was one of the worst comics I've ever read, and afterwords Brubaker stopped writing stories and just started to use Captain America as his political mouthpiece. Two America's is not an arc, it was an excuse for Brubaker to bash conservatives.

I agree that Reborn was a means to an end and afterwords it's been clocking time till Steve took up the shield. I did enjoy the Baron Zemo arch though. I'm a conservative and I will agree that Two Americas was a bit over the top.

[Proto Goblin]

I never really understood what all the fuss over The Long Halloween was. I thought it was mediocre for the most part. The first chapter and the two chapters with the Joker were the highlights of it for me.

[Spider-Dad]

Not at all, it was a chore to read his Spider-Man run.
It took me 3 months, because I just didn't enjoy most of it. There are parts of it I think are good, but most of it was dull to me and I dunno, I prefer a more modernized version of writing.

But with a name like Sarcasmic, my first instinct is to not take your post seriously...

For me the Stan Lee run is the epitome of great Spider-Man. Sure his dialog could get hammy at times, but no other author can lay claim to creating as many villains/supporting characters/moments that still resonate to this day. Modern comics may have better paper and coloring, but from my vantage point don't hold a candle to the originals...

As to this thread, I tried the recent run on Green Lantern, (got the Sinestro Corp Wars in trade) and was underwhelmed. Despite others I know on this board, (**ahem, Kev...**) loving it, it just was not my cup of tea.

[butters911]

I agree with Spiderdad. those were the best years on the book. Esp. The first 38 issues with Ditko. Classic stuff.

[Aziz]

Most of the comics based on video games, Prototype is the first exception
Stan Lee's DareDevil, and it's sad cause I enjoy DareDevil more than I enjoy Thor or Captain America, but those two have lots of great comics produced by Lee, Kirby & co

You guys are going to kill me.

I tried. Very VERY hard. But I just couldn't get it.
Here's another one.

Maybe it was the hype but I struggle to see why Watchmen is so highly praised. I enjoy it but I don't understand all the fascination it gets and why it's regarded as one of the best comic books of all time.

Even for the things it was praised for, lots of it was available in other comics at that time and before, other than the p stuff

I couldn't even finish TDKR. I love Batman and most of Frank Miller's work.

I absolutely love 80s comics. But these are two books I just don't get.

I think this story sucks

Speaking of which, I still can't get into several of Morrison's highly praised Batman comics:

R.I.P reeks, except for the one moment of flashback Bruce had of the time with the monk, and Tim's parts
Return of Bruce Wayne is unbelievable junk
Batman 700, seriously, what mystery? I read it when I was insomniac only once, and got the whole story, no puzzle, no mystery, just a cheap gimmick to make fans interested

Lots of Batman stories before the early 70s

[Berserkfury819]

Anything by Tim Sale. I just really can't stand his art.

I'm not a big fan of Silver Age D.C. I find the majority of it to be either too silly or just downright stupid. With a few exceptions (Wolfman/Perez Titans, O'Neil Batman) I have little to no interest in Pre-Crisis D.C. However I love Silver Age Marvel. Go figure.

[CrazyChris]

Spider-Girl by Tom Defalco. It irritates me how the people who worship this book just assumed that it was continuously on the brink of cancellation either because people weren't giving it a chance, or the word hadn't gotten out enough, or that Marvel wasn't doing enough to promote it. Actually, I think the sales numbers showed that people were giving it a chance and were dropping it, I don't think there was a problem with people being unaware that the book existed (I knew about it before I even started reading comics), and Marvel gave this book way more second chances than any sensible company would give to such a proven financial failure.

For me, the problem is that Tom Defalco has not evolved his writing style since the 1980s. There are plenty of writers from that era, like Peter David, who have managed to keep up with modernizing their voice. When I read X-Factor, the characters act and sound like they could be real people, so I can get attached to them. But when I read something by Defalco, it's all stilted 80s dialogue and tedious captions. It makes me want to claw my eyes out. I don't mind dated styles when they appear in comics that were actually produced back in the day, but a book in the 2000s should seem like a book from the 2000s.

[NickMB]

Spider-Girl by Tom Defalco. It irritates me how the people who worship this book just assumed that it was continuously on the brink of cancellation either because people weren't giving it a chance, or the word hadn't gotten out enough, or that Marvel wasn't doing enough to promote it. Actually, I think the sales numbers showed that people were giving it a chance and were dropping it, I don't think there was a problem with people being unaware that the book existed (I knew about it before I even started reading comics), and Marvel gave this book way more second chances than any sensible company would give to such a proven financial failure.

For me, the problem is that Tom Defalco has not evolved his writing style since the 1980s. There are plenty of writers from that era, like Peter David, who have managed to keep up with modernizing their voice. When I read X-Factor, the characters act and sound like they could be real people, so I can get attached to them. But when I read something by Defalco, it's all stilted 80s dialogue and tedious captions. It makes me want to claw my eyes out. I don't mind dated styles when they appear in comics that were actually produced back in the day, but a book in the 2000s should seem like a book from the 2000s.

I think Spider-Girl was a good book for its target audience (younger readers and people who were nostalgic for old-school Spider-Man comics), but yeah, it was so wedged in that vibe that it was never going to top the charts. Marvel gave it plenty of promo considering, there were plenty of books who would have killed for the spin-off miniseries and relaunches that Spider-Girl got.

I think it lasted for too long to say that everyone who tried it hated it, but it was too niche to ever be much more popular than it was. I enjoyed it for quite a while in my mid-late teens, but as my taste swung more towards indie/Vertigo and the more thoughtful, character-based superhero stuff, I finally dropped it. And maybe that's what finally killed it, its audience aging. Who knows.

[tnr105]

Ooh. Don't let Spideydude hear you say that, you're treading on his holy ground.

[DarkKnightJared]

Spider-Girl by Tom Defalco. It irritates me how the people who worship this book just assumed that it was continuously on the brink of cancellation either because people weren't giving it a chance, or the word hadn't gotten out enough, or that Marvel wasn't doing enough to promote it. Actually, I think the sales numbers showed that people were giving it a chance and were dropping it, I don't think there was a problem with people being unaware that the book existed (I knew about it before I even started reading comics), and Marvel gave this book way more second chances than any sensible company would give to such a proven financial failure.

For me, the problem is that Tom Defalco has not evolved his writing style since the 1980s. There are plenty of writers from that era, like Peter David, who have managed to keep up with modernizing their voice. When I read X-Factor, the characters act and sound like they could be real people, so I can get attached to them. But when I read something by Defalco, it's all stilted 80s dialogue and tedious captions. It makes me want to claw my eyes out. I don't mind dated styles when they appear in comics that were actually produced back in the day, but a book in the 2000s should seem like a book from the 2000s.

Same here--I don't think it was BAD, per se, there was definitely some interesting stuff in there, but the way it was actually written on the page just didn't really jive with me.

[Sarcasmic]

As far as I can tell, this guy is new, but he's flying up the ranks at Marvel it seems, espec9ially with Fear Itself and the aftermath of Fear Itself.
I despise pretty much anything Cullen Bunn has put out.

[Donomark]

The Mary Jane Loves Spider-Man comics.

I have nothing against them, but I read the first trade and, honestly, it felt a bit too girly to suit my manly tastes.

[butters911]

Spider-Girl by Tom Defalco. It irritates me how the people who worship this book just assumed that it was continuously on the brink of cancellation either because people weren't giving it a chance, or the word hadn't gotten out enough, or that Marvel wasn't doing enough to promote it. Actually, I think the sales numbers showed that people were giving it a chance and were dropping it, I don't think there was a problem with people being unaware that the book existed (I knew about it before I even started reading comics), and Marvel gave this book way more second chances than any sensible company would give to such a proven financial failure.

For me, the problem is that Tom Defalco has not evolved his writing style since the 1980s. There are plenty of writers from that era, like Peter David, who have managed to keep up with modernizing their voice. When I read X-Factor, the characters act and sound like they could be real people, so I can get attached to them. But when I read something by Defalco, it's all stilted 80s dialogue and tedious captions. It makes me want to claw my eyes out. I don't mind dated styles when they appear in comics that were actually produced back in the day, but a book in the 2000s should seem like a book from the 2000s.

I agree with this 100%. I have not enjoyed a Defalco comic since his run on ASM in the 80's. And I can never forgive this:

[Aziz]

I love Tom Defalco, don't feel his scribing is outdated

[dornwolf]

The Mary Jane Loves Spider-Man comics.

I have nothing against them, but I read the first trade and, honestly, it felt a bit too girly to suit my manly tastes.

I'd agree with that, when you look at it's the perfect thing for some readers but others it just falls flat.