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Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby CloneSaga » Mon May 28, 2012 3:38 pm

Boomstick wrote:Who said we have to accept things? Just because a mistake has been around for a long time, that doesn't make it any less a mistake (witness the death of Supergirl after Crisis on Infinite Earths, which took over a decade of waiting to reverse). Just because the current regime in Marvel is digging their heels in doesn't mean things will be this way forever, or that we have to accept what's being dished out. We've enjoyed better before and we will again-it's just a matter of waiting.

I may feel nothing but indifference towards the prospect of the new film, nothing but apathy for the current run of the comics, but I still love Spidey for what he can be at his best. The return of that Spidey is worth waiting for. Until then, let's just consider this 5 years of BND the same way people looked at the fifth anniversary of Prohibition: A well intended, but utterly misguided and counter productive mandate which is tolerated with resignation at best, loathed at worst.

We are the loyal opposition: We love Marvel Comics, we love Spidey but disagree with current policy towards him. We have an obligation to stay strong, to keep believing.

It's not just the marriage: I still love Spider-Man, the responsible, fallible-but-wise hero who represents the best in all of us, and his eventual revival is worth waiting for. Eventually, this period in Spidey's History will looked back at with a wince and a shake of the head. Until then, we're Peter Parker's torch bearers, the loyal opposition.

Think this way: When the chips are down, when things looked hopeless, and the powerful bad guy looked sure to win and he faced long odds and all logic said to throw in the towel, would Peter Parker give up? Like our favorite web slinger, we're facing hard times just now, but better days are coming. For now, we just hang tough and celebrate the webhead at his best, as he once was and will be again.

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And if sales double at the same time it will be proof that we were right all along. People left in droves after OMD.

Side note: While I don't read anything Marvel anymore, I do see someof their movies. The Avengers was a masterpiece. I was blown away. So it is not all negative:-)
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby FSUSpiderFan » Mon May 28, 2012 3:51 pm

I don't read the tainted current Spidey but I am loving the back issues and Spider-Girl comics.
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby Boomstick » Mon May 28, 2012 5:57 pm

Comics make mistakes all the time, either through oversight or through simple poor choices, which in retrospect don't work. It's inevitable in a serial medium, and no biggie.

BND was a mistake as is the practice of ignoring/trolling of reader protests for the sake of pride.

The Spider-Man reboot way back when was a mistake.

Making Peter, for however short a time, the clone was a mistake of biblical proportions.

The DCNu, though well meaning, is a mistake (though it would make an exemplary Ultimates/Elseworlds line to complement the "main" continuity).

The general Silver-Age fever the Big two have now has led to mistakes, such as the return of Barry Allen (a clear case of breaking what didn't need fixing)

"Infinite Crisis" and "Final Crisis" were mistakes, going to the well too often.

Spider-Man has made mistakes, such as killing off Mary Jane.


These are not the first such mistakes or poor choices, call them what you will, nor will they be the last. I'm not overly worried that we won't see this one fixed, maybe sooner, maybe later. Chin up! Things will get better.
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby dornwolf » Mon May 28, 2012 6:21 pm

AbdulAziz wrote:Great videos


I love that first one based purley on the editing skills. While the second is probably one of the greatest movie speeches ever, couple years back now a guy edited it with some Vancouver Canucks footage when they were going for the Stanley Cup and it was beautiful.
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby Phantom Roxas » Tue May 29, 2012 10:34 am

The Amazing Spider-Man #700 is supposed to be an incredibly important chapter, having just as much impact as AvX, which will be over by then. Hopefully they live up to that promise, but so far I can see it being possible since AvX #9 is supposed to put Spider-Man in the spotlight.
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby herbiepopnecker » Tue May 29, 2012 12:04 pm

And isn't AvsX just another Civil koff**koff**waste of time koff** War?
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby Phantom Roxas » Tue May 29, 2012 1:56 pm

It really is. I'm not sure whether to call Schism a Civil War rehash as well, considering how that was an X-Men event rather than the main event of the year, and at least it meant something for the X-books because it at least made a clear line between where each book goes. While I've heard Fear Itself was decent at best, at least the premise of the book sounded original. Has there ever really been a Thor event?
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby Boomstick » Tue May 29, 2012 4:22 pm

Remember when the big Spidey "event" arcs were few and far between, and were greeted anticipation instead of dread? I'm willing to bet #700 will involve the death or retirement of Peter Parker, which will, of course, last as long as Captain America's or Johnny Storm's. Either way, I just can't work up any desire to see the impending train wreck.

When you base five years of your campaign of a comic character on one big shock and awe event after another, people will get numbed, no matter how hard you try, and that, sadly, pretty much describes the problem here. You get in a rut, and you have to keep topping yourself with bigger and bigger events to retain your audience. It just gets into a vicious cycle, and the audience keeps getting numb and eventually loses interest anyway.

That's the problem: you can only do so much with flash-bang "events" before the public becomes oversaturated with them.
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby Aziz » Tue May 29, 2012 4:31 pm

dornwolf wrote:I love that first one based purley on the editing skills. While the second is probably one of the greatest movie speeches ever, couple years back now a guy edited it with some Vancouver Canucks footage when they were going for the Stanley Cup and it was beautiful.
I admire the first video for the skill you mentioned, and the tune used

herbiepopnecker wrote:And isn't AvsX just another Civil koff**koff**waste of time koff** War?
I like Civil War, though they do have their similarity
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby Phantom Roxas » Tue May 29, 2012 9:02 pm

Boomstick wrote:Remember when the big Spidey "event" arcs were few and far between, and were greeted anticipation instead of dread? I'm willing to bet #700 will involve the death or retirement of Peter Parker, which will, of course, last as long as Captain America's or Johnny Storm's. Either way, I just can't work up any desire to see the impending train wreck.

When you base five years of your campaign of a comic character on one big shock and awe event after another, people will get numbed, no matter how hard you try, and that, sadly, pretty much describes the problem here. You get in a rut, and you have to keep topping yourself with bigger and bigger events to retain your audience. It just gets into a vicious cycle, and the audience keeps getting numb and eventually loses interest anyway.

That's the problem: you can only do so much with flash-bang "events" before the public becomes oversaturated with them.


Are you referring to Spider-Man tie-ins to events, or events that take place in Spider-Man books? If it's the former, then I recall that there were a few tie-ins to Secret Invasion and Dark Reign, plus the Fear Itself mini, and let's not forgot that the tie-in to Civil War is what started this whole mess. If the latter, then the only ones I can really think of are Spider-Island and Ends of the Earth. Either way, I see what you mean, as I recall someone saying the same thing about Avengers vs. X-Men, as now it just seems like a comic event is going to get churned out every year. Is there really anything from the fallout of Avengers Disassembled that hasn't been dealt with yet?
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby Berserkfury819 » Tue May 29, 2012 10:08 pm

Boomstick wrote:Remember when the big Spidey "event" arcs were few and far between, and were greeted anticipation instead of dread? I'm willing to bet #700 will involve the death or retirement of Peter Parker, which will, of course, last as long as Captain America's or Johnny Storm's. Either way, I just can't work up any desire to see the impending train wreck.

When you base five years of your campaign of a comic character on one big shock and awe event after another, people will get numbed, no matter how hard you try, and that, sadly, pretty much describes the problem here. You get in a rut, and you have to keep topping yourself with bigger and bigger events to retain your audience. It just gets into a vicious cycle, and the audience keeps getting numb and eventually loses interest anyway.

That's the problem: you can only do so much with flash-bang "events" before the public becomes oversaturated with them.


Actually the current rumor is the resurrection of Gwen Stacy since she'll be in the new movie.
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby FSUSpiderFan » Wed May 30, 2012 6:10 am

Berserkfury819 wrote:
Boomstick wrote:Remember when the big Spidey "event" arcs were few and far between, and were greeted anticipation instead of dread? I'm willing to bet #700 will involve the death or retirement of Peter Parker, which will, of course, last as long as Captain America's or Johnny Storm's. Either way, I just can't work up any desire to see the impending train wreck.

When you base five years of your campaign of a comic character on one big shock and awe event after another, people will get numbed, no matter how hard you try, and that, sadly, pretty much describes the problem here. You get in a rut, and you have to keep topping yourself with bigger and bigger events to retain your audience. It just gets into a vicious cycle, and the audience keeps getting numb and eventually loses interest anyway.

That's the problem: you can only do so much with flash-bang "events" before the public becomes oversaturated with them.


Actually the current rumor is the resurrection of Gwen Stacy since she'll be in the new movie.

Uncle Ben, George Stacy, and probably the Connor family are in it too. I guess they need to find a way to brought back too. Legions of the dead are rising!!!
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby herbiepopnecker » Wed May 30, 2012 1:10 pm

Berserkfury819 wrote:
Actually the current rumor is the resurrection of Gwen Stacy since she'll be in the new movie.


You may be missing a couple of "re-" prefixes.... :mrgreen:
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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby Spider-Dad » Wed May 30, 2012 9:32 pm

Berserkfury819 wrote:Actually the current rumor is the resurrection of Gwen Stacy since she'll be in the new movie.


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Re: Anti-OMD/BND = Delta House (Where the Sexy Lives)

Postby Aziz » Thu May 31, 2012 2:40 am

Out of nostalgia, I decided to watch some of Paul Daniels show


Don't know what reminded me of this particular magician, I know if not for my father's love for magic I might not have known of him
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