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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby BertoneBeatle » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:57 pm

Reg wrote:I remember reading reprints of those issues in my Essentials years ago and all of Betty's two timing never even crossed my mind. Ah, to be older and wiser. Betty really was a jerk of a human being.


As a thirteen year old, it really got me. Betty was free to date as she pleased but was always yelling at Peter if he so much as looked at Dorrie, Liz or anyone. It bothered me and issue 26 is only time Peter really calls her on it.

What kills me is Peter still blames Spider-Man for the dissolution of that relationship when reading in order, it appears to Betty's fault. She eventually drives Peter away with the Ned stuff as issue 30 shows. Peter not telling her he was Spider-Man didn't end the relationship nor did him missing dates end it...it was Betty constantly giving him the cold shoulder because she thought he was a cheater...so she dated Ned...threw it in Peter's face...invited him over the house to tell him that Ned proposed and then when Peter had enough and started ignoring her, Betty left town. How is that Spider-Man's fault?
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby stillanerd » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:23 pm

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Reg wrote:I remember reading reprints of those issues in my Essentials years ago and all of Betty's two timing never even crossed my mind. Ah, to be older and wiser. Betty really was a jerk of a human being.


As a thirteen year old, it really got me. Betty was free to date as she pleased but was always yelling at Peter if he so much as looked at Dorrie, Liz or anyone. It bothered me and issue 26 is only time Peter really calls her on it.

What kills me is Peter still blames Spider-Man for the dissolution of that relationship when reading in order, it appears to Betty's fault. She eventually drives Peter away with the Ned stuff as issue 30 shows. Peter not telling her he was Spider-Man didn't end the relationship nor did him missing dates end it...it was Betty constantly giving him the cold shoulder because she thought he was a cheater...so she dated Ned...threw it in Peter's face...invited him over the house to tell him that Ned proposed and then when Peter had enough and started ignoring her, Betty left town. How is that Spider-Man's fault?


Well, in all fairness, Bertone, if you recall issue #17, I think it was, Peter was going to go to Flash's "Spider-Man Fan Club" as Spider-Man but realized he couldn't ask Betty to go for that same reason. And as you well know, during the fight between himself, the Green Goblin, and the Human Torch, Spidey changed back into Peter and ran into Liz Allan. And while the blond boy-stealer was running her fingers through his hair, Betty just happened to see this, thus naturally concluding he was two-timing her with Liz. And who do we see Betty going out on a date with the very next issue? Why Ned Leeds, of course, working her little plan to try and get Peter jealous by making him think she wasn't going to wait around for him and wasn't a needy, emotional basket-case. Of course, her plan worked TOO well. And it all started because Peter had to be at that "Spider-Man Fan Club" as Spidey. :lol:
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby BertoneBeatle » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:29 pm

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Reg wrote:I remember reading reprints of those issues in my Essentials years ago and all of Betty's two timing never even crossed my mind. Ah, to be older and wiser. Betty really was a jerk of a human being.


As a thirteen year old, it really got me. Betty was free to date as she pleased but was always yelling at Peter if he so much as looked at Dorrie, Liz or anyone. It bothered me and issue 26 is only time Peter really calls her on it.

What kills me is Peter still blames Spider-Man for the dissolution of that relationship when reading in order, it appears to Betty's fault. She eventually drives Peter away with the Ned stuff as issue 30 shows. Peter not telling her he was Spider-Man didn't end the relationship nor did him missing dates end it...it was Betty constantly giving him the cold shoulder because she thought he was a cheater...so she dated Ned...threw it in Peter's face...invited him over the house to tell him that Ned proposed and then when Peter had enough and started ignoring her, Betty left town. How is that Spider-Man's fault?


Well, in all fairness, Bertone, if you recall issue #17, I think it was, Peter was going to go to Flash's "Spider-Man Fan Club" as Spider-Man but realized he couldn't ask Betty to go for that same reason. And as you well know, during the fight between himself, the Green Goblin, and the Human Torch, Spidey changed back into Peter and ran into Liz Allan. And while the blond boy-stealer was running her fingers through his hair, Betty just happened to see this, thus naturally concluding he was two-timing her with Liz. And who do we see Betty going out on a date with the very next issue? Why Ned Leeds, of course, working her little plan to try and get Peter jealous by making him think she wasn't going to wait around for him and wasn't a needy, emotional basket-case. Of course, her plan worked TOO well. And it all started because Peter had to be at that "Spider-Man Fan Club" as Spidey. :lol:


Betty never told Peter she wanted to go to the club meeting. She just silently waited to ask him. Why would he ask, especially after she speech she gave him about not liking Spider-Man at the end of issue 11?

She told him in issue 18 that he knew she wanted to go....HOW?

And Liz running her fingers through his hair doesn't equal cheating.

Peter tried MANY times to explain things to her and she wouldn't listen. She did EVERYTHING to push him away...and then was frightened when GASP he was pushed away.

Sorry not buying that it was Spidey's fault.
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby stillanerd » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:48 pm

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BertoneBeatle wrote:What kills me is Peter still blames Spider-Man for the dissolution of that relationship when reading in order, it appears to Betty's fault. She eventually drives Peter away with the Ned stuff as issue 30 shows. Peter not telling her he was Spider-Man didn't end the relationship nor did him missing dates end it...it was Betty constantly giving him the cold shoulder because she thought he was a cheater...so she dated Ned...threw it in Peter's face...invited him over the house to tell him that Ned proposed and then when Peter had enough and started ignoring her, Betty left town. How is that Spider-Man's fault?


Well, in all fairness, Bertone, if you recall issue #17, I think it was, Peter was going to go to Flash's "Spider-Man Fan Club" as Spider-Man but realized he couldn't ask Betty to go for that same reason. And as you well know, during the fight between himself, the Green Goblin, and the Human Torch, Spidey changed back into Peter and ran into Liz Allan. And while the blond boy-stealer was running her fingers through his hair, Betty just happened to see this, thus naturally concluding he was two-timing her with Liz. And who do we see Betty going out on a date with the very next issue? Why Ned Leeds, of course, working her little plan to try and get Peter jealous by making him think she wasn't going to wait around for him and wasn't a needy, emotional basket-case. Of course, her plan worked TOO well. And it all started because Peter had to be at that "Spider-Man Fan Club" as Spidey. :lol:


Betty never told Peter she wanted to go to the club meeting. She just silently waited to ask him. Why would he ask, especially after she speech she gave him about not liking Spider-Man at the end of issue 11?

She told him in issue 18 that he knew she wanted to go....HOW?


Because, just like most what most women assume about men, she expected Peter to be a mind-reader. :wink:

And Liz running her fingers through his hair doesn't equal cheating.


Cheating, no. But when a woman runs her fingers through a man's hair--or touches him in a playful way--it's definitely flirting. And it wasn't like Peter was putting up much of a resistance in those instances. Granted, Betty has insecurity issues, or else she wouldn't have been so jealous of every woman who paid the slightest bit of attention to Peter.

Peter tried MANY times to explain things to her and she wouldn't listen. She did EVERYTHING to push him away...and then was frightened when GASP he was pushed away.

Sorry not buying that it was Spidey's fault.


That's why I said her attempt to make Peter jealous by going out with Ned in the vain hope that Peter would "stop seeing other women" and come back to her royally backfired. Because not only did Peter eventually drop her like a bad habit, she wound up liking and marrying Ned because he was more "attentive" to her. At least until he was before they got married.
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby brianv326 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:21 pm

I bet Betty Brant has bipolar,
You see in the comics how Betty goes from really happy to sad too mad pretty fast
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby BertoneBeatle » Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:46 pm

There is a two part story in WEB where Betty kisses Peter passionately (married at the time to Betty's MAID OF HONOR) and the next issue says she always hoped they would work things out.

That plays out differently when Peter isn't married in current continuity...but yea what a horrible thing for Betty do...kissing married men.
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby FSUSpiderFan » Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:59 pm

See, OMD is making Betty a better person... :wink:
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby Spider-Dad » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:01 pm

BertoneBeatle wrote:There is a two part story in WEB where Betty kisses Peter passionately (married at the time to Betty's MAID OF HONOR) and the next issue says she always hoped they would work things out.

That plays out differently when Peter isn't married in current continuity...but yea what a horrible thing for Betty do...kissing married men.


What issue was that? I don't recall this scene.
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby Spider-Girl » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:57 pm

After listening to 7 episodes...I feel like there is too much MAN on this podcast!!! There is no one to stick up for those poor female characters. Poor Sue Storm!

Another good quote: "Spider-man lands on top of the Lizard (ooh) and forced the serum down his throat. I didn't mean for it to be as suggestive as it came out to be!"
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby FSUSpiderFan » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:14 pm

Sounds like you need to go on and add some estrogen to the podcast. Lord knows they could use it. :wink:
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby ChronoSpidey » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:54 pm

Stella,

I would be all about having some feminine input guest starring on the show. Have your people call my people. :-)

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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby Donomark » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:56 pm

Spider-Girl wrote:After listening to 7 episodes...I feel like there is too much MAN on this podcast!!! There is no one to stick up for those poor female characters. Poor Sue Storm!


I knew our male chauvinistic ways would be called out sooner or later...

Spider-Girl wrote:Another good quote: "Spider-man lands on top of the Lizard (ooh) and forced the serum down his throat. I didn't mean for it to be as suggestive as it came out to be!"


XD That's one of my favorite quotes as well. Just the way Josh and I in tandem are in horror at what was just said.
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby FSUSpiderFan » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:31 pm

ChronoSpidey wrote:Stella,

I would be all about having some feminine input guest starring on the show. Have your people call my people. :-)

Jon


How much do these "people" get paid? Are they unionized?
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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby Spider-Girl » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:51 pm

FSUSpiderFan wrote:Sounds like you need to go on and add some estrogen to the podcast. Lord knows they could use it. :wink:


LOLs...I'm not smart enough to guest on this show!

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Re: Betty Brant is a horrible person

Postby BertoneBeatle » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:33 pm

Spider-Girl wrote:
FSUSpiderFan wrote:Sounds like you need to go on and add some estrogen to the podcast. Lord knows they could use it. :wink:


LOLs...I'm not smart enough to guest on this show!

Poor Betty! She's getting ripped a new one in episode 7! Jeffry says, "You just lost half your audience." After the comment, "Spidey acts like a little girl!"


Things get worse for Betty as the show goes on..
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