The Black Cat wrote: Even though they barely pulled off Sins Past with Norman as the father, can you imagine what contrived convolutions they would have needed to prove Peter was the father? That certainly would have not held up to snuff...it's a better story (and more plausible) that dirty ol' horny man Norman did it...
That reminds me...
What I find interesting in all of this debate is the perceptions that some people have had about the whole affair, that how could sweet innocent Gwen could have slept with evil old lecherous Norman. For example:
Norman did not know he was the Goblin at the time. He was still suffering the effects of the electrical shock he incurred in issue #40 and was acting nice at the time. He would have not have sexually assaulted or forced himself on Gwen. In fact, other than his beloved wife and the nurse who cared for him when he was recovering from his Gathering of Five induced insanity - Norman has shown no interest in even touching a woman. After all, if he wanted to rattle Peter by having sex with his woman, he could have easily raped Mary Jane at any time since his return from the dead.
In fact, he was afraid that he might dying at the time and was worried about how Harry would take care of himself.
Norman was probably around 45 at the time, which is not an inconceivable age for a 19 year old girl to sleep with, particularly a young woman who had probably known him for much of her life, was a friend of her own father's, and who in many ways was an "older"version of the young man she was actually in love with at the time.
Gwen as originally conceived by Stan and Steve Ditko was clearly very... aggressive. She briefly eyeballed Flash, and started salivating over Peter soon after she met him. It's not inconceivable that she could have already slept with a man (or more than one) before she even met Peter in college. And it was my experience in school that the overt teases (such as Mary Jane) gave "it" up less than the so-called "good girls."
I don't think he would rape anyone. It's not his style. It would be too easy for him. I get the feeling that Norman Osborn likes to make more difficult for himself than he has to, to amplify his sense of accomplishment in success. Think about it:
1. The costume. Why would anyone wanting to be feared wear a goblin costume that screams "GAY" like Norman's?
2. He had Baby May be born and kidnapped. Why not just kill her and save the trouble and money?
3. He kidnaps Gwen and knocks her out. Why not just kill her and leave her body there for Peter to see?
4. His quest to torment Peter. Why not just kill him when you have the chance?
Raping Peter's significant other hurts him yes, but that's too easy for Norman. Why simply rape your enemy's love when you can seduce her and demonstrate your skill at it? Essentially, doesn't it take more skill to convince her to say yes, even though she was fully capable of saying no? Granted, seducing Mary Jane is a practical near-impossiblity, so it wouldn't work, which is probably never explored this idea.
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